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Asia

Are Japan and Korea really colonies/puppet-states of the USA like so many Chinese users say?

No, Chinese netizens just have an unfortunate inferiority complex so they feel the need to put down other countries to make themselves feel better about their country. What does US Puppet state even mean anyways?

Usually when Chinese netizens say this, it means that the US military has some control over that country therefore it’s a ‘puppet’ state. Well how many countries does the US military have a presence in?

Where in the World Is the U.S. Military?

Over 70+ countries. So I guess that’s a lot of US ‘puppet’ states eh?

In day to day life, this doesn’t really matter or have an effect on the lives of normal people. Yes, Korea shares joint command of their military with the USA and Japan’s constitution was written by the USA, but that doesn’t mean either country just bows down (as Chinese people like to say ‘like a dog’) to the US’s demands.

In fact, Korea can and has turned down demands from the US before: South Korea refuses to pay US$5 billion to cover cost of US troops

In every other way, Korea/Japan elects their own president, runs their own politics, and the USA has no influence in that.

I think China often uses this putdown to Korea/Japan because they are jealous that Korea/Japan developed much earlier than they did and still have higher GDP/capita so per person, Koreans/Japanese are still generally more well off than Chinese are. Plus, their soft power is far more recognized globally than Chinese soft power (Chinese wuxi isn’t exactly in high demand like kpop concerts or Japanese anime are).

So what can a Chinese do to make themselves feel better? Well, accuse those countries of not being independent, that’s what. And especially since USA is China’s enemy right?

Well, actually USA is China’s biggest trading partner – so much for being independent from the USA. It’s kind of a moot point to accuse other countries of being too dependent on America when your own country imports $150B worth of goods from America every year.

 

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Politics

Why do some overseas Chinese desire to see China collapse and fail?

I’m a first generation Chinese immigrant. I was born in China but grew up and educated in the West (Canada).

I don’t want to see China collapse and fail at all, my main concern is the actions that the CCP has taken in recent years has resulted in quite concerning consequences.

The Hu Jintao years were great for China, that was when China became a major world power, the 2008 Beijing Olympics really being the point where I could say wow China has come a long way and now they are on the world stage, caught up to Japan and Korea technology wise, and catching up to the US GDP wise. At that time Chinese were still quite humble about themselves and saw a desire to improve their country.

But after Hu stepped down and Xi Jinping took over, I saw a much more protectionist shift.

Websites blocked in mainland China – Wikipedia

Check out this list of websites blocked in China, and take note of how many of those websites were blocked post 2011 when Xi Jinping came to power. That’s most of the list. Now if you go to China as a tourist, 95% of your apps and websites will probably be blocked. You also won’t be able to use your credit cards anymore, since China is now largely cashless. It’s basically a big F U to foreigners when you go to China.

I myself saw a huge difference when I went to Shanghai first in 2011, then last year in 2018. Back then, I could still access my websites and apps, there was more friendliness to foreigners, and I didn’t sense as much materialism or arrogance back then. Then last year I went back, and although technology has improved a lot – the people have gotten more unfriendly, being a foreigner made you a target, everyone was very materialistic and judged you if you didn’t support China etc

Since Xi took over and in recent years, China has gotten increasingly more aggressive when it comes to blocking or censoring foreign websites and apps. They’ve gotten much more politically sensitive and eager to ban or boycott foreign companies or persons (notably Korea, Japan, Canada and US all suffered some kind of ban or boycott in recent years).

I can see the motivation for Xi Jinping’s approach – which is to protect the Chinese industry and people – but I also think its unhealthy for the people. Because of the degree of censorship, anti-Western bias played by Chinese media and political sensitivity in China these days, Chinese have become more and more nationalistic, less humble and notably, anti-Western, especially compared to the Hu Jintao era.

Now all it takes to get yourself banned from China is to is to be on good terms with the US (Korea, Canada), say something about Hong Kong (NBA, various celebrities, etc) or criticize their human rights abuses (Soccer club Arsenal, South Park etc) or mentioning Winnie the Pooh, Tibet, Taiwan etc any number of things will get yourself banned and criticized on Chinese social media.

Take a look on Quora for example, or other social media (Chinese have to use VPN to access Western social media) and all I see are anti-Western answers and comments saying how Western democracy has failed, Americans are arrogant, theres a anti-Chinese conspiracy going on, Westerners want China to fail (i.e this very question is an example of that), Westerners are all brainwashed to hate China, Americans are hypocrites etc that’s all I see.

I don’t think its healthy to have this anti-Western, pro-Chinese sentiment going on at this degree, and that’s led to Chinese losing their humility and lose sight of what made them improve from the 1990s in the first place which is the ability to self-criticize, learn from their mistakes and improve their country.

What a marked difference from the Hu Jintao era. Now it’s all about ‘China is the best country in the world, we have the best economy, we are allowed to bully other countries because America does it, and anyone who criticizes us must have been brainwashed to do so’

This is a rather concerning development, and its a result of the protectionist / nationalistic push that China has taken in the Xi Jinping years. So it’s not that I have any desire to see China fail, I just disagree with the current Xi Jinping government and most Chinese netizens because I think that their actions in recent years is what leads to a lot of deserved criticism from foreigners and foreign countries, and they don’t seem to acknowledge it or want to change/improve that.

I supported China in the Hu Jintao era. Now, I don’t want to anymore – a lot of China’s uber nationalism, arrogance, hypocritical actions, banning/boycotting and economic bullying of other countries just makes me think of China as the Eastern version of the USA, and that just makes me ashamed to associate myself with Chinese in recent years. I thought China/Chinese were better than that and wanted to be better than USA/Americans, not become like them.

Lest Chinese forget, protectionism and arrogance is exactly what caused the Qing Dynasty to fail…

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Politics

How does a Chinese person living in western countries cope with seeing media that is almost 100% negative to China?

I think there’s a deep misunderstanding by Chinese here; first that Western media is part of some Western conspiracy to bring down China and that by extension, almost all Westerners must hate China (not true).

While it is true that the *majority* of Western media articles are negative towards China, it really doesn’t matter because… most Americans don’t even trust their own media

Americans’ Trust in Mass Media Edges Down to 41%

Most Americans say they have lost trust in the media

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2019-07-02/poll-one-third-of-americans-believe-media-are-enemy-of-the-people

Almost One Third of Americans Don’t Trust the Media: Poll

‘Fake News’ Fears: 95% of Americans ‘Troubled’ by Current State of Media, Poll Finds

It’s kinda hard to ‘brainwash’ people when most people don’t think your information is real.

We should take a look in contrast, at what % of Chinese state media coverage is favorable towards America/Western countries (I’m willing to bet, most of it is negative as well) – and what % of Chinese believe their media (I’m also willing to bet, most Chinese believe their own media at least at a higher percentage that Americans believe theirs).

In fact you’ll find that most American media pits Americans.. against each other! Democrats vs Republicans. Liberals vs Conservatives. Trump supporters vs anti-Trump supporters. Far right vs Anti-fascist. Red states vs blue states.

I cannot say for all Western media, but I assume that Canadian, Australian, British, French news etc are in general slightly less negative towards China than America is, but I will say one thing which is that the purpose of the media is to essentially control the people – but the media needs to gain the trust of the people first. If it cannot, then it has no purpose anymore.

There’s a few corollaries I would like to make too:

  1. Western media is not just biased against China, it’s also biased against North Korea, Turkey, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Islam states etc i.e it has an agenda which is to form opinions in peoples minds to create division between people and countries
  2. Media can only be effective if people trust the media. Right now that is not the case in America.
  3. Most American media right now is much too concerned with pitting Americans against each other rather than trying to pit Americans against China. In fact I would go so far as to say in today’s partisan climate, an American is more likely to support China’s government than they are supporting the opposing Democrat/Republican party. That’s how divided America is right now. Heck a lot of Trump supporters warmed up to Kim Jong Un and Vladmir Putin – effectively because Trump tweeted that they were nice people!
  4. Can’t generalize a group of people who span hundreds of racial groups, ethnicities, backgrounds, and dozens of governments into one group “Westerners”. I’m a Westerner. So is the Hispanic guy who works as a car mechanic in Texas. So is the single mother of three working 3 jobs a day in New Jersey. So is the Chinese-American adopted girl who got raised in Los Angeles. Or the Businessman from Paris. Or the Security Guard from England. Or the Zookeeper in Australia. they are all Westerners. We are all very different. There’s no way we’d be able to agree on anything together including hating on a single country because the media said so.

Political Polarization in the American Public

The Disunited States: How partisan politics is polarising the US

Poll: America’s partisan divisions are wider than ever

^ some additional info – Americans are too busy fighting each other to be united in anything including hating on China. I also suspect that there is some narrative going on in China as well to pit Chinese against Western countries/America – again because there is a political agenda at play here. The more nationalistic Chinese get the more likely they are to shun foreign products/services, buy domestic products and use domestic services therefore boosting the overall economy. Every nation has its own agenda.