Is all the hate towards Star Wars: The Last Jedi warranted or is it just people who don’t like that their theories about the movie didn’t come true?

It’s warranted, it’s not just because their theories didn’t come true. Let’s set aside Snoke for a moment, because all the hate to that character was mainly because of people’s theories not being true. Let’s also throw away the whole ‘Luke turned into an old grump’ thing as well since although disappointing for fans, is not really an inherent problem of the movie itself.

Let’s take a look at the movie from the perspective of a critic and not a Star Wars fan. There’s lots of other intrinsic problems with the movie and lots of plot holes.

-Ok so Rey, I’m ok with Rey being a nobody. I’m not ok with Rey being built up in the Force Awakens, a flashback being shown of her parents leaving, Luke’s lightsaber calling out to her as if she has some special connection with it, then Rey being revealed as a nobody. Why build her up in the Force Awakens? This is clearly a case where Rian didn’t like what JJ Abrams set up for him, and threw it away – and it shows.

-I still don’t understand the point of the alien milking scene with Luke. And apparently Rian threw away the scene of Luke reacting to Han’s death (in the deleted scenes) for that scene. What’s the narrative purpose?

-Ok, so the scene with Princess Leia flying back to the ship. It’s incredibly jarring for fans, but from a movie critic perspective – why does no one talk or react to this at all?

-I still don’t understand what the purpose of Admiral Holdo not telling Poe her plan was. Why keep it secret?

-The whole Canto bight scene – completely unnecessary. There’s no narrative purpose to get sidetracked on a quest to free the animals when the main mission was to get the Codebreaker.

-There’s no progressing of the characters. Rey goes down a dark hole, and comes out the same person. Same with Kylo teaming up with Rey, showing signs of an anti-hero but then goes back to being the main villain again.

-Speaking of the Codebreaker, we get one scene of him, and apparently another guy can fill in for him, that just happens to be in the same cell as them. What? I thought Maz said this was the only guy in the galaxy that could do this?

-Maz never explains how Luke’s lightsaber came to be in her possession even though she promised to in the previous movie.

-Finn can pilot in the second movie, even though no time has passed at all since the first film (where he couldn’t pilot and needed Poe’s help).

-I still don’t understand why Rose crashes into Finn’s ship. First – how did she go faster than Finn to catch up with him, second, she could have killed Finn, third, she said it’s because she loves Finn but she just knew him for 12 hours, and fourth, Finn was going to protect the Resistance – why would Rose sabotage that?

So yeah, there’s tons more problems with the movie if you were a star wars fan (that hyperspace ramming scene, Admiral Ackbar, Phasma, Porgs, Luke turning on his nephew, Snoke, Leia’s force powers, the Yoda force lightning scene, etc) but speaking from a purely movie critic standpoint – the film had a lot of issues. Still not sure why Rotten Tomatoes gave it 91% from critics. Surely some other critics must have noticed these issues as well.


What is the worst defense you’ve seen for ‘The Last Jedi’ being not as bad as people say?

“Leia was shown to be force sensitive in the original trilogy.”

My response: Yes, sure but that doesn’t mean she gets powers that even Palpatine and Jedi Knights couldn’t get. Surviving in space is a Thanos-level ability.

“Luke changed. People change. He decided to be a hermit because that’s what Yoda and Obi-wan did”

My response: No, Yoda and Obi-wan were hiding from the Empire, they were *forced* to go into hiding. It’s not a voluntary thing whereas for Luke it was voluntary

“Palpatine never got a backstory in the original trilogy either so why should Snoke?”

My response: Because when the original Star Wars came out there was no previous established setting. The Empire obviously had to have an emperor. Snoke on the other hand, we had no idea where he came from, and how he built the First Order from the ashes of the Empire. He was apparently powerful enough to influence Ben Solo across the galaxy but couldn’t tell he was betraying him? Ok. The Emperor was also there as a way for Vader to redeem himself. Snoke is there because….? I don’t see any progression in Kylo’s character after his death.

“Rey is a force sensitive nobody. Its to show that anyone could be force sensitive!”

My response: Ok, but first of all you built up Rey in the Force Awakens, you can’t just throw that away, secondly, she’s more powerful than freakin Anakin Skywalker and that guy was born from the force! You can’t just say she’s a nobody.

“The Last Jedi is a good movie you are just complaining about sour grapes”

My response: no matter what TLJ cannot be a good movie and will never be a good movie by the virtue of dividing its fanbase in this way. A good movie has never been so divisive. As much as you want to say oh Empire Strikes Back was just as divisive no it wasn’t. Not to this level. There are people saying how they would rather watch The Phantom Menace than TLJ, that’s how divisive this movie is.

“You have to read the books and watch the Clone Wars animation to understand where Snoke/First Order/etc came from! so it all makes sense!”

My response: Any movie that requires you to read other material or watch side material to understand what’s going on is not a good movie. I had the same problem with the ending of Solo, actually so it’s not just TLJ but by far the TLJ commits the most awful sins of disregarding the established lore (hyperspace jumping as a weapon) or plain not explaining alot of details (hey, do we still get a story about how Maz gets Luke’s lightsaber? nope)


Why are some people hating Star Wars: The Last Jedi?

-Luke Skywalker fundamentally changes his character. The Luke that thought that Vader was redeemable somehow thought that his nephew Ben Solo was worth killing, if only for a moment.
-Luke dies a hermit instead of going out in a blaze of glory. I felt this was in poor taste and disrespectful to Luke. Also, if force projection kills you then why didn’t it kill Snoke when he does it?
-There’s no one on one lightsaber battles at all.
-Snoke and Rey are random beings who are randomly powerful without explanation. Snoke dies quite easily and quickly. This makes even less sense when we consider how Rey was built up in the Force Awakens. Like how did Maz find Luke/Anakin’s lightsaber? Why did Rey get visions? Where’s the Knights of Ren? What about that vision of Rey’s parents flying away? makes no sense.
-How does Rey an untrained force sensitive beat Luke freaking Skywalker in combat?
-How does the First Order have so many more resources and able to construct things like Starkiller Base? At the end of ROTJ the Galactic Empire had been defeated. Oh yeah, and it’s unoriginal. Try Centerpoint station or World Devastators or Sun crusher or heck the ECLIPSE star destroyer for originality.
-No original new ships? You’re telling me in 30 years they didn’t build anything new? They just re-used the same X-wings and TIE fighters? Geez. At least in the expanded universe we got cool new stuff like the TIE defenders and E-wings and Howlrunners.
-Finn doesn’t know how to pilot in TFA but knows how to pilot just fine in TLJ.
-Leia floats back to the ship and no one says a thing. (this makes even less sense when you consider Ebony Maw from Avengers Infinity War dies from the space vacuum despite being 100x more powerful than Leia)
-Force ghosts can now call down lightning – umm that’s pretty unfair don’t you think? And why didn’t other force ghosts use the same thing? Sure would have helped in the prequel/original trilogies.
-Hyperspace is now a weapon so don’t bother actually using big ships because small ships piloted by droids can now destroy all of them
-The fuel.. why can’t the First Order just go faster and catch up to the Resistance? One ship is out of fuel and the other isn’t. One cannot go faster and the other can. If this is anything like a car chase… just go faster!
-Prank call at the beginning went on for too long.
-Rose falls in love with Finn in less than 12 hours. They both should have died when their speeders crashed. And the walkers should have killed them while they were making out.
-The codebreaker they were supposed to get is in a brief scene but never mentioned again.
-The replacement codebreaker is never seen or heard from again either. Also, he can do the exact same thing the ONE guy in the galaxy can do according to Maz?
-Why did Admiral Holdo not tell Poe her plans causing a mutiny? just.. why?
-Captain phasma is useless (actually she had some badass moments but this was in a deleted scene).
-They went to canto bight to free some animals basically.
-Apparently gravity exists in space.
-Luke milks some space aliens for some reason.
-Luke throws away his dads lightsaber without even blinking.
-Luke never reacts to Hans death (actually he does, but this is in a deleted scene).
-Porgs are completely useless.
-Rey went down a dark hole and.. nothing happens.
-Why don’t all spaceships just use a droid to pilot it and use lightspeed to ram it through capital ships?
-Rose tells Finn he is selfish for trying to abandon the Resistance at the beginning but selfishly crashes into Finn’s speeder later on because she has a crush on him, endangering the Resistance survivors
-Kylo ren has a brief moment where he could become good but then goes back to bad again.
-Leia is never killed off even tho Carrie is dead.
-Admiral Ackbar dies off screen while a new character we see for 10 min gets sacrificed instead.

Those are just few grievances. This movie has all the action and cast but it doesn’t do the right things with them… thankfully I did watch a much better sci-fi sequel a month before (Blade Runner 2049) so not all my childhood scifi franchises were destroyed