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Who hates China more ABCs or HKers?

None of us hate mainland Chinese, we just don’t like it when there’s people like the question asker who make ridiculous generalizations about either us or Western people based on false assumptions.

For example:
-All Westerners hate China – not true
-All ABC/HKers hate China – not true
-All HKers are protestors = terrorists = not true
-ABC/HKers are conditioned/brainwashed by the Western media to hate China – not true
-ABCs or HKers are required to support China because they are ethnically Chinese and if they don’t it means they are brainwashed by Westerners – not true, they are free human beings, can make their own judgments and can identify with whoever they choose

Where do these assumptions come from? Usually when I see these assumptions, its a result of some mainland Chinese who used VPNs or came abroad, then went to Western social media sites, saw some examples of racism or criticism against them on Youtube/Twitter/Facebook/Quora/etc and then extrapolates and generalizes that they all must hate Chinese based on a few examples they saw.

Here’s some facts I can give you:
-I was raised in Canada – I’m not exactly a CBC but I definitely consider myself more Canadian than Chinese
-I studied Chinese in university and visited/traveled China multiple times, I have many Chinese friends
-I lived in Asia (Korea) for 2 years and go back every year. Visited Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong as well
-I have many ABC friends that went to work in China (Shanghai/Beijing)
-I have many ABC friends that married Chinese women
-I have many HK friends that side with China, not the protestors
-I don’t have any ABC friends that have a positive impression of Trump

based on these facts, I can at least say that around my circle at least, there’s no HKers/ABC “brainwashed” or “conditioned” by Western media to hate China.
Furthermore if you go to China, or even look on the Quora China topic, I think you’ll find many Westerners that live in China, married Chinese or are very supportive of China. So much for all Westerners hating China eh?

I don’t have a problem with Chinese, what I do have a problem is, is when they accuse Westerners/Americans of spreading false or generalized misinformation about China (which I agree that Western media is biased), but then turn around and spread false or generalized beliefs about Westerners as well. Or using America as an example for why China is allowed to boycott/ban/bully etc That’s just hypocrisy. Why does China want to be like America if America is the example they always cite as a bad example/influence on the world?

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What’s your opinion about South Korea?

A great country for social conservatives, for men, young people and a great country for nightlife. For liberals/feminists/vegans, workers and for women – not so much.

They work really hard, they study really hard and they play really hard. They probably work amongst the most hours in the OECD and they also drink probably the most alcohol in the OECD. They also have the highest suicide rate in the OECD. They also drink the most coffee out of anyone in Asia I think. They also probably have the most cosmetic stores and plastic surgery clinics per capita out of any country in Asia.

But, despite all that, I love Korea. It’s a really conservative Confucian country, which being a social conservative, I like a lot. The guys are masculine, the women are feminine, there’s a strict gender conformity which I love (seriously screw SJWs and their 23 genders). The people are nice and polite and friendly. 40% of Koreans are Christians and a lot of them are quite devoted Christians. Along with Japan, Korea is the only country where women dress up regularly. In every other place I been to – Europe, China, USA, Canada – the women dress too casually. This is the only place where women seem to wear dresses/miniskirts more often than pants, even in the winter. (This is good for guys).

There is not as much to see and do compared to Japan or China, but Korea has a unique charm about it. And it’s not like they are arrogant either. Koreans seem to have an inferiority complex about themselves. They will have pride in their country but I’ve never heard them say their country was the best. Korean women in particular have really low self esteem especially given how much they care about their appearance. They all have low self confidence about their English too, even though they speak English on average better than Koreans/Japanese. They have a cookie cutter lifestyle where you study for 14 hours a day as a high school student, then after you graduate you work for 14 hours a day for minimal pay. You aren’t allowed to go against your boss or speak out against them. If they make you go to a drinking dinner you have to go. In this sense, Korea has a very strict work culture.

The nightlife there is 24/7, at least in Seoul. Lots of places open at 5pm and don’t close until 6am. Lots of places are 24 hour. The clubs there go until 6am. The nightlife is among the best in Asia and in the world.

In my opinion Korea is a great place to live and party but not to work – that’s why I choose to work abroad but come back every year for playing, haha.

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What is your opinion about China and Chinese people?

I guess I come from the unique perspective of having been to all the East Asian countries (China, Taiwan, Japan, Korea) and my feelings about China has changed because of this. Roughly 30% of my friends are Chinese and 40% Korean.

Before I lived in Korea, I was in China for a few months, visiting such places as Beijing, Shanghai, Nanjing, Suzhou, Hangzhou.

My impressions are that North China has really bad air.. and although Beijing has lots of history, it just wasn’t as interesting to me as Central and South China were. In contrast, Shanghai was probably the most modern city in China, and Suzhou and Hangzhou had some of the most beautiful natural scenery I’ve experienced.

I had lots of (mainland) Chinese friends in university, and also met Chinese people in China of course.

I feel that my feelings for Chinese people changed a lot after I met Japanese, Koreans and Taiwanese after I graduated university and started working and traveling to other Asian countries.

After having visited Japan and Taiwan and living in Korea for 2 years, here’s my observations:

-China is a great place for traveling and still has some of the most naturally beautiful places in the world.

-China is a massively diverse country full of different races and cultures

-Chinese food is very different from American Chinese food

-Chinese people are very blunt; For example they do not hesitate to mince words on anything really. Korea/Taiwan/Japan tend to soften their words in order not to offend people too much, but Chinese just straight up say whatever is on their mind. This is often taken as ‘harshness’ or ‘rude’ by other countries but I think this is just their culture.

-China has way better gender equality than any of its surrounding countries. And the women act very different from Korean/Japanese/Taiwanese women. They are less traditionally feminine, more assertive, more ambitious, and in a lot of cases can actually be more dominant than the men. It’s almost a role reversal compared to other countries, lol. It’s better in China to be a girl. Everything is paid for by the guys. The guys are pretty subservient to their gfs. The groom’s family pays for the wedding, not the bride. And because of the skewed gender ratio, girls have the pick of the litter. Pretty big contrast to Korea/Japan where its pretty much the opposite. Heres a nice graphic that is based on the stereotypes:

-Chinese people are very prideful about their country, and more uniquely is how prideful they are about the specific region where they are from. A lot of times I would hear not’ Chinese ___ is the best’ but rather ‘Sichuan ___ is the best’ or ‘Beijing ___ is the best’ or ‘Shanghai __ is the best’. They like to boast a lot, and its not hard to see that they are biased in favor of China and their region on a lot of issues. It’s not so different from USA where Americans boast about their country too, but it is different from Taiwan/Japan/Korea where I don’t really hear them boasting about their country that often. Chinese people are not really aware of the culture differences between their country and Japan/Korea/Taiwan either, but that’s a forgivable point I suppose considering most Chinese have not been outside their country before.

-Chinese people seem to put a lot of faith into their government. I’ve seen them use extreme cases to justify certain questionable government decisions. For example, banning foreign websites: Foreigners think its extremely limiting to freedom but Chinese people think its a good thing because it protects their domestic industry. censoring sex/violence in entertainment: Foreigners think its extreme, Chinese people think that having sex/violence in entertainment will lead to people becoming depraved criminals. censoring social media: Foreigners think it limits freedom, Chinese people think having a free social media is too crazy and chaotic and unstable. The government makes them wear ugly track outfits for school. Foreigners think Korean/Japanese school uniforms look better. Chinese people think its distracts them from studying and looks too sexy. Chinese people seem to place a premium on stability and harmony over freedom and flexibility, I think.

-Japan is Tang Chinese culture, Korea is Ming Chinese culture, Taiwan is ROC culture, and China is its own culture. I find China the most westernized in culture out of all of them. For example, China is the least traditionally Confucist out of those countries, they have mostly done away with traditional ceremonies, religion, outfits (Chinese rarely wear Qipao compared to Japan’s Kimono or Korea’s Hanbok), and their fashion style is more similar to Westerners (i.e casual style) than to Koreans or Japanese. Perhaps this isn’t surprising since China underwent massive revolutions compared to those other countries.

-Most Chinese are clean, nice and polite, but perhaps not to the same extent as Taiwan, Korea or Japan. My ranking of cleanliness / politeness in general is Japanese (TOO polite to a fault) > Taiwan > Korea > China.

-Censorship. This is more of a problem for foreigners than native residents, but just be aware that unlike Japan/Korea/Taiwan, you need to use a VPN to use most sites in China, and they censor violent/sexual content. Too much so, IMO.

-Cost of living. Beijing, Shanghai and Tokyo are in the top tier of expensive cities to live in the world. In smaller Chinese cities, it is much cheaper. Seoul is a tier cheaper than those cities, and Taipei has the lowest cost of living amongst all the major capitals.

-China has the most job opportunities, and the best place to start a company, by far. Shenzhen and Beijing are economic powerhouses for IT. Korea’s job market is too competitive (there’s a reason why they have #1 suicide rate), Japan’s economy is stagnant and Taiwan’s economy is also stagnant. If you are looking for work as a foreigner, China is the best.

– Safety wise, all East Asian countries are safer than America. No comparison really. Very few mass shootings and gun murders if at all. In China you do have to be more careful of scams and thieves but its still relatively safe. In terms of safety I rank like this: Japan (zero gun deaths a year. seriously.) > Korea/Taiwan > China

-Technology. Again, ALL of these countries have great technology. Japan is famous for its tech companies, robots and micro electronics (Sony, Canon, Fujitsu, Toshiba, Panasonic, Nintendo, etc too many to list). Taiwan is the #1 maker of computer hardware with such names as Asus, Acer, HTC, Gigabyte, MSI etc. Korea is home to electronic giants Samsung and LG. China doesn’t have the brand cache of those other companies but they are improving! Huawei, Lenovo, Xiaomi, ZTE are some of the companies that are rapidly catching up to Japan and Korea!

-Religion wise, because of China’s communist past, religion is pretty much banned, most Chinese are atheist. Taiwan and Japan are mostly Buddhist. Korea is uniquely a Christian country, perhaps relating to how socially conservative they are.

In general I think it really depends what you want but China has its pros and cons. I did a comparison between China and other East Asian countries because I feel that this is a unique perspective I can contribute to, if others are interested. I would say work opportunity, diversity and natural beauty China is #1. Japan for the super polite / clean culture with a unique flavor. Korea is a mix of Japan and China but is also the most socially conservative and traditionally Confucist out of all them. Taiwan is much smaller than any of those countries but is a mix of Japanese and Chinese culture. I almost want to say they are Chinese people but with the manners of Japanese people.

Let me know in the comments if I am missing any comparison.

Edit: I have a lot of mainlanders commenting about the status of Taiwan. Taiwan is not controlled by the PRC. I don’t care if you think its a province or not or it belongs to China it is NOT controlled by PRC. The government of Taiwan is the ROC. Whether the UN recognizes it as a country or not doesn’t matter here. Xi Jinping is not Taiwan’s leader. Taiwanese elect their government and receive different education from mainland. These are facts and NOT up for debate. I do not tolerate ignorance and misinformation so I disabled the comments.