Who suffered the greatest fall from grace in the NBA?

Dwight Howard

Up until 2012, Dwight was the next coming of Shaq. A 3x DPOY, 5x Rebounding leader, and 2x blocks leader, Dwight was the 2nd best center in the NBA, best player on an otherwise underwhelming Finals team in 2009, and had supreme athletic gifts.

Unfortunately, his move to the Lakers, injury and feud with Kobe led to Dwight being shunned by the basketball community. He was underwhelming with the Rockets and has bounced around from team to team since then, constantly derided by fans for having no post moves, too ‘soft’, no ‘killer instinct’ etc. His post Lakers career ruined him. Very disappointing for an otherwise top 15 center all time and first ballot HOFer.

Which NBA player (or future NBA player) can you see getting the next quadruple double?

Here’s an interesting thing: If you make a search on Basketball Reference with the criteria > 10 PPG, > 6 RPG, > 6 APG, > 2 SPG you will see the most well rounded guards/forwards: Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Lebron James, Russell Westbrook, Jason Kidd, Scottie Pippen, Walt Frazier, Rick Barry, Fat Lever etc these are the players most likely to get a quadruple double with steals.

Getting 10 steals is remarkably difficult though; I think its interesting that Jordan, Magic, Kidd, Lebron etc never got a quadruple double before.

Using the criteria for blocks, you have to set it to > 10 PPG, > 6 RPG, > 4 APG, > 2 BPG and you can see some of the most well rounded big men: David Robinson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Kevin Garnett, Bob Lanier all appear on the list pretty frequently. Wilt Chamberlain would have also been on there. Curiously, none of them except Robinson have produced a quadruple double, and Hakeem doesn’t appear on the list. Kareem had several seasons of statlines like 27/14/5/4 so I’m surprised he never had a quadruple double too.

Modern day, players are averaging triple doubles left and right so I will start with the most likely candidates: Anthony Davis, Draymond Green, Lebron James, Russell Westbrook, Ben Simmons would be my picks. Davis is currently the player most similar to Hakeem and Robinson too.

What would be the greatest starting 5 in NBA history?

I’m going for the most unselfish team here

  1. Magic Johnson. Highest average assists in NBA history. Most decorated PG ever. Team leader.
  1. Jerry West. The reason why I don’t put MJ or Kobe here is because I want the most unselfish team. I don’t want any ball hogs or egos on this team. West is perfect. He can score (actually he averages higher than Kobe does) and he is also one of the best assisters as well. He also keeps his ego in check. He’s also super clutch and a great defender as well.
  1. Lebron James. He’s a beast both offensively and defensively. He is the all time leader in assists for his position. He has one of the highest scoring averages in NBA history at 27 a game. The King has very few flaws – and the flaws he does have gets fixed up by the other people on this team.
  1. Hakeem Olajuwon. I think anyone can agree with me that Hakeem > Duncan. Hakeem is a great fit for the PF position because he has great footwork and plays almost like a guard. He is also a monster on defense and very clutch when the time comes.
  1. Wilt Chamberlain. I was thinking of putting Russell in this spot then I realized Wilt was also a great team player in his later years. Russell was a great team player all his career… but sorry Russell, Wilt is just the complete package. He almost equals Russell in defense and WAY surpasses him in offense. I also took him over Kareem because I feel Wilt was the more dominant player (in fact old Wilt gave young prime Kareem tons of trouble). There’s just no replacement for a guy who averaged 30/23/4.