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Who are your top 5 NBA Duos?

  1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Magic Johnson. Why is this duo #1 for me over Mike/Scottie? Because they won almost as many rings (5) while going to 3 more Finals (9), and because it’s probably the only time in NBA history you’ll ever see 2 guys who are both top 6 all time playing on one team, both in their primes. That’s just special.

2. Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen. Hard to argue with this one, 6 Finals, 6 rings.

3. Shaq and Kobe. 3 rings, 4 Finals, with one team (2001) being absolutely dominant in the playoffs. Also, two top 12 guys of all time on one team both in their primes.

4. Elgin Baylor and Jerry West. 8 Finals appearances, sure they didn’t win any rings together, but they came close several times. Also, two top 15 guys on one team both in their primes.

5. Karl Malone and John Stockton. Only 2 Finals and 0 rings, but still… the all time leading assist maker of all time with the 2nd all time leading scorer of all time on one team! Two top 25 players of all time who played their whole careers with each other.

Who was the best NBA center of all time and why?

I think the main contenders for this spot is either Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain or Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

First off, out of these 3 I rank Russell the lowest because even though he was the best defender of the three, the greatest winner and arguably the best team player, he lacked the 2 way dominance the other two had. In terms of intangibles Russell might be #1, but I place him below Wilt/Kareem.

Now for Wilt vs Kareem it really depends on whether you value prime output or longevity. This is a big debate among fans and there’s no right answer. For example, would you take Robert Parish 21 years of above average play or Bill Walton 2 years of transcendental play? Would you take Bernard King a SF with an incredible unstoppable prime, or Paul Pierce an above average SF with a long career but a not so dominant prime?

Wilt has the most incredible prime out of any player in NBA history, MJ included. He averaged 50 points a game one season, scored 100 points in one time, grabbed 55 rebounds in one game, led the league in assists etc it goes on and on. However he only played 13 seasons.

Kareem along with Duncan, Malone, Stockton, Kobe, Lebron etc has one of the longest careers of exceptional play out of any NBA player but his prime doesn’t quite match Wilt’s. He played 7 more seasons than Wilt did, yet I believe that Wilt would have exceeded almost all of Kareem’s records (except for rings maybe) if he played just as long as Kareem did.

So for me I’m picking Wilt over Kareem because I believe that Wilt was the more talented player, post knee-injury Wilt was able to block prime Kareem’s skyhook and match him one on one and I do believe that if Wilt was in his prime, he would dominate Kareem. But it’s a close choice and I really don’t fault anyone for picking Kareem over Wilt as well as I understand the reasons behind it.

Which NBA player (or future NBA player) can you see getting the next quadruple double?

Here’s an interesting thing: If you make a search on Basketball Reference with the criteria > 10 PPG, > 6 RPG, > 6 APG, > 2 SPG you will see the most well rounded guards/forwards: Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, Lebron James, Russell Westbrook, Jason Kidd, Scottie Pippen, Walt Frazier, Rick Barry, Fat Lever etc these are the players most likely to get a quadruple double with steals.

Getting 10 steals is remarkably difficult though; I think its interesting that Jordan, Magic, Kidd, Lebron etc never got a quadruple double before.

Using the criteria for blocks, you have to set it to > 10 PPG, > 6 RPG, > 4 APG, > 2 BPG and you can see some of the most well rounded big men: David Robinson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Kevin Garnett, Bob Lanier all appear on the list pretty frequently. Wilt Chamberlain would have also been on there. Curiously, none of them except Robinson have produced a quadruple double, and Hakeem doesn’t appear on the list. Kareem had several seasons of statlines like 27/14/5/4 so I’m surprised he never had a quadruple double too.

Modern day, players are averaging triple doubles left and right so I will start with the most likely candidates: Anthony Davis, Draymond Green, Lebron James, Russell Westbrook, Ben Simmons would be my picks. Davis is currently the player most similar to Hakeem and Robinson too.