Tag: choke

  • What if Lebron James didn’t choke in the 2011 finals? Would the Heat won the championship?

    I think Lebron choking in the 2011 Finals is a bit exaggerated.

    I know, this is crazy right? Whenever I tell people he didn’t choke that badly they all think I’m trying to make excuses for him, I’m a ‘bronsexual’ etc even Lebron fans and Nick Wright don’t give Lebron any slack for that chokejob right? biggest chokejob ever in the Finals!!! Terry and Barea outplayed him! Is what all the haters say.

    Well I went back and watched the games. Let’s go over what actually happened.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJlQ_2sceVI

    So this is Mavs vs Heat 2011 Finals Game 4- the game that Lebron scored 8 points in. That’s gotta be Lebron’s worst game ever right? At least one of his worst chokes ever. Ok, let’s actually break down what happened each Heat possession in the 4th quarter and how the Mavs came back starting from 1:30:54 in the video.

    4th quarter – 6:30 left in the game – Heat still have the lead 78–75. Chalmers brings up the ball. Gives it to Wade, then gives it back to Chalmers. Chalmers misses the layup and ball goes out of bounds. Chalmers inbounds it to Bosh, Bosh shoots and misses. Mavs score on their next possession.

    Next Heat possession – 5:38 left in the game – Heat have the lead 78–77. Chalmers gives it to Wade, ball goes out of bounds. Wade gives it to Chalmers. Chalmers tries to drive in but gives it to Bosh instead. Bosh misses the layup and it gets stolen from him and Mavs score again.

    Next Heat possession – 5:01 left in the game. – Heat trailing 78–79. Wade run the ball up the court and it gets stolen from him and hit out of bounds. Mavs ball. Chandler gets fouled and hits the free throw.

    Next Heat possession – 4:25 left in the game – Heat trailing 78–80. Lebron runs the ball up the court, it gets passed to Wade, Wade passes it to Miller and Miller loses it and ball goes out of bounds. Mavs ball.

    Next Heat possession – 3:53 left in the game – Lebron brings the ball up the court again. Passes it to Miller who passes it back to Bron who then passes it to Haslem. Haslem passes it to Miller and Miller misses it.

    Next Heat possession – 3:10 left in the game – Wade brings the ball up the court. Wade pulls up from 3 and misses.

    Next Heat possession – 2:37 left in the game – Wade brings the ball up, drives inside the lane and feeds it to Bosh. Bosh loses the ball, Wade gets it back, passes it to Lebron. Lebron misses a pullup jumper. Miller gets the offensive rebound, passes it to Wade, who passes it to Miller. Miller drives in and misses. Mavs gain possession and Dirk sinks 2 free throws.

    You can see the Mavs playing excellent zone defense on him whenever he has the ball blocking his driving lanes

    Next Heat possession – 2:15 left in the game – Heat trailing 78–82. Lebron brings the ball up.

    Mavs forcing Lebron to pass the ball or to take the 3 (Lebron would rather pass it than take a 3 at this point of his career)

    Mavs give Lebron a bit of space (Bron hasn’t developed an outside jumper at this point in his career) but are ready to double him if he tries to go inside. Lebron isn’t confident in his outside jumper and passes to Bosh who then gets fouled. Bosh hits both free throws.

    Next Heat possession – 1:24 left in the game – Heat trailing 80 – 82. Lebron brings the ball up again.

    See how the Mavs are in Lebron’s face again? Everytime they see Lebron they are ready to double him. Lebron passes it to Haslem who misses.

    Next Heat possession – 0:32 left in the game – Lebron throws an outlet pass to Wade who gets fouled. Wade hits 1 out of 2 free throws. Mavs get a timeout. Dirk gets the ball and makes a layup.

    Next Heat possession – 0:14 left in the game – Heat trailing 81 – 84. Wade gets the inbound and drives in and makes a layup. Mavs then get the ball and Bron has no choice but to foul Terry given the limited time left. Terry makes both free throws.

    Next Heat possession – 0:07 left in the game – Heat trailing 83 – 86. Miller inbounds it to Wade, Wade loses the ball and passes it back to Miller, Miller misses the three. Game is over.

    So in the last 4th quarter of that game, supposedly Lebron’s ‘worst’ game. Who was actually responsible for the Mavs winning? Miller, Wade and Bosh missed a lot of shots or turned over the ball which gave the Mavs extra opportunities to score. I think Lebron only gets part of the blame because he only got the ball a few times to begin with – the Mavs tried to deny Lebron any possessions in the first place. Then whenever Lebron got the ball, Mavs played excellent zone defense on him forcing him to pass it. Yes Lebron could have been more confident in his outside jumper, but he was essentially blocked on driving in most of the time. Rick Carlisle knew Lebron didn’t have much of an outside jumper so he basically got the Mavs to crowd his driving lanes every time he got the ball and try to deny him as many possessions as possible. It worked.

    In conclusion, Lebron’s ‘choking’ is really a result of the Mavs excellent strategy to limit Lebron’s touches + daring Lebron to shoot from the outside and blocking his usual driving lanes with excellent zone defense. Wade/Bosh/Miller had a lot of missed shots/turnovers. Only casuals would blame the loss 100% on Lebron. This is the reason why Lebron had a low PPG but high FG% (48%) during the series. Just think about it.. nobody who chokes in the traditional sense would have such high efficiency and also average 7 RPG and 7 APG in the series. The people who keep saying Terry outplayed Lebron only look at the PPG and didn’t watch what actually happened in the game.

     

     
  • Kevin durants nets were 7th seeded and were not favoured to beat this celtics team, meanwhile lebron in 2011 was heavily favoured to beat the Mavericks but he got outscored by jj barea and lost. Has Lebron fans forgot this?

    Actually, KD’s Nets WERE favored to beat the Celtics team. The 7th seed is deceiving because Kyrie was out for most of the season. Once they got Kyrie back, the Nets were playing like a top 3 seed. So in fact KD’s Nets were favored in the series. KD and Kyrie on paper were a lot better than Jayson Tatum and Al Horford and Marcus Smart on paper.

    And ironically that’s the exact same reason for the 2011 Heat being favored, is because they were better on paper. Lebron, Wade, Bosh on paper is better than Dirk, Jason Terry, Shawn Marion on paper.

    So it’s exactly the same situation. Also, I noticed you got the Lebron hater narratives a bit mixed up probably because you were too brainwashed by the memes.

    Jason Terry was the one who outscored Lebron in the series, not JJ Barea. Terry averaged 18 PPG to Lebron’s 17.8 PPG (yes 0.2 PPG diff, whatever). And Barea averaged a measly 9 PPG that series. And it really doesnt mean anything. Nobody talks about Andrew Toney outscoring Magic in the 1983 Finals. Nobody talks about Jalen Rose outscoring Kobe by a whopping 8 PPG in the 2000 Finals.

    Lebron fans never forget this because the haters CONSTANTLY bring up this series. They act like the 2011 Mavs were the worst team of all time when in fact they SWEPT the Kobe Lakers who were defending champs and beat the KD/Westbrook/Harden OKC in 5 and won 57 games in the Western conference. That’s a pretty good team and Bron haters act like they were scrubs or something. Jason Terry was actually their second leading scorer on their team after Dirk.

    Lebron averaged 18/7/7 that series on 48% shooting. KD in the Nets-Celtics series had 22 PPG on 36% shooting. Sure he averaged more PPG but he also shot a hell of a lot worse. and he didn’t contribute in other ways like Lebron did. I can argue Lebron in 2011 had a better series than KD against the Celtics. He wasn’t shooting 0 for 10 in a second half. People say Lebron choked because he passed the ball instead of shooting. I can argue that KD choked more because he couldn’t hit any damn shots!

    And upsets happen all the time. I can list quite a few notable examples. 1969 Lakers with West/Baylor/Wilt were heavily favored over Russell’s Celtics in their last year and they still lost. 1975 Warriors Rick Barry with literally no other all stars beat the Unseld/Hayes Bullets. 1986 Lakers fell to the upstart Hakeem/Sampson Rockets. 1994 63 win Sonics fell to the 8th seeded Nuggets. 2004 Lakers with Shaq/Kobe/Malone/Payton were HEAVILY favored over the Pistons, and they got beat in 5 games – Pistons only had one all star that season Ben Wallace. 2007 Mavs a team that won 67 games in the regular season fell to the 8th seeded Warriors. And of course the 73 win 2016 Warriors with the ‘unanimous’ MVP fell to the Cavs when they were up 3–1. Lots of upsets happen, not just 2011, but it seems like the 2011 one gets brought up the most by far in order to hate on Lebron.