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Politics

How does a Chinese person living in western countries cope with seeing media that is almost 100% negative to China?

I think there’s a deep misunderstanding by Chinese here; first that Western media is part of some Western conspiracy to bring down China and that by extension, almost all Westerners must hate China (not true).

While it is true that the *majority* of Western media articles are negative towards China, it really doesn’t matter because… most Americans don’t even trust their own media

Americans’ Trust in Mass Media Edges Down to 41%

Most Americans say they have lost trust in the media

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2019-07-02/poll-one-third-of-americans-believe-media-are-enemy-of-the-people

Almost One Third of Americans Don’t Trust the Media: Poll

‘Fake News’ Fears: 95% of Americans ‘Troubled’ by Current State of Media, Poll Finds

It’s kinda hard to ‘brainwash’ people when most people don’t think your information is real.

We should take a look in contrast, at what % of Chinese state media coverage is favorable towards America/Western countries (I’m willing to bet, most of it is negative as well) – and what % of Chinese believe their media (I’m also willing to bet, most Chinese believe their own media at least at a higher percentage that Americans believe theirs).

In fact you’ll find that most American media pits Americans.. against each other! Democrats vs Republicans. Liberals vs Conservatives. Trump supporters vs anti-Trump supporters. Far right vs Anti-fascist. Red states vs blue states.

I cannot say for all Western media, but I assume that Canadian, Australian, British, French news etc are in general slightly less negative towards China than America is, but I will say one thing which is that the purpose of the media is to essentially control the people – but the media needs to gain the trust of the people first. If it cannot, then it has no purpose anymore.

There’s a few corollaries I would like to make too:

  1. Western media is not just biased against China, it’s also biased against North Korea, Turkey, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Islam states etc i.e it has an agenda which is to form opinions in peoples minds to create division between people and countries
  2. Media can only be effective if people trust the media. Right now that is not the case in America.
  3. Most American media right now is much too concerned with pitting Americans against each other rather than trying to pit Americans against China. In fact I would go so far as to say in today’s partisan climate, an American is more likely to support China’s government than they are supporting the opposing Democrat/Republican party. That’s how divided America is right now. Heck a lot of Trump supporters warmed up to Kim Jong Un and Vladmir Putin – effectively because Trump tweeted that they were nice people!
  4. Can’t generalize a group of people who span hundreds of racial groups, ethnicities, backgrounds, and dozens of governments into one group “Westerners”. I’m a Westerner. So is the Hispanic guy who works as a car mechanic in Texas. So is the single mother of three working 3 jobs a day in New Jersey. So is the Chinese-American adopted girl who got raised in Los Angeles. Or the Businessman from Paris. Or the Security Guard from England. Or the Zookeeper in Australia. they are all Westerners. We are all very different. There’s no way we’d be able to agree on anything together including hating on a single country because the media said so.

Political Polarization in the American Public

The Disunited States: How partisan politics is polarising the US

Poll: America’s partisan divisions are wider than ever

^ some additional info – Americans are too busy fighting each other to be united in anything including hating on China. I also suspect that there is some narrative going on in China as well to pit Chinese against Western countries/America – again because there is a political agenda at play here. The more nationalistic Chinese get the more likely they are to shun foreign products/services, buy domestic products and use domestic services therefore boosting the overall economy. Every nation has its own agenda.

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Asia

What is the Chinese argument for Taiwan being a part of China?

Taiwan is not a part of China, and I say this not because I was ‘brainwashed’ by Western education but by the reality of the situation.

-China (PRC) has no governmental authority over Taiwan

-Chinese need a visa to visit Taiwan

-Taiwan has its own currency and flag

-Taiwanese have their own passport

Aren’t these things enough to prove that Taiwan is not a part of China?

Of course, I have to address some of the arguments Chinese people commonly make:

”Taiwan used to be Chinese territory and Japan unlawfully took it away and it rightfully belongs to China”

Yes thats how war works. When you lose a war, you lose territory. Why would Taiwan be any different? Singapore used to be Malaysian territory. Pakistan used to be India territory. Kosovo is a current disputed state that used to be Serbian territory. Hell if you want to go back to Qing Dynasty times, Texas used to be part of Mexico and Canada used to be part of the UK. Fact of the matter is just because something used to be part of your territory doesn’t mean it’s part of the current territory.

-”Taiwan is part of China according to Chinese constitution and ROC map shows mainland China as theirs so Taiwan is part of China”

This has to be most ridiculous argument. Just because a territory is legally written in the constitution as part of your territory does not make it so. Else the USA can just amend their constitution to include China as a US State and boom! China is now a state of the USA right? No, it doesn’t work like that. And mainland China being included in ROC’s map is just proof of my point here as well; how many Chinese would agree that ROC has control over mainland China? You disagree? Well that’s what the map says so it must be true right? North Korea still considers South Korea part of their territory on their constitution. Again, does the world think that SK is part of NK? I don’t think so. 

”Taiwan is not recognized by the UN as a country, UN recognizes China as the real China, so it’s not a country”

First of all, UN only accepted PRC as the rightful Chinese government over ROC when they saw that mainland China’s economy was catching up and surpassing Taiwan’s economy and thus it was diplomatically advantageous to recognize PRC as the “true” government, secondly UN does not determine who is a country and who isn’t. UN was only created in 1945 so does that mean there were no countries prior to 1945? China (PRC) didn’t join the UN until 1971 – previously ROC was representing China – does that mean mainland China (PRC) didn’t exist as a separate country until then? Makes no sense.

”But Hong Kong has own visas, passports, own currency, own flag etc and you agree that it’s part of China.”

Hong Kong is a special case – part of the one country, two systems – and the important difference between Hong Kong and Taiwan lies here: China (PRC) has no governmental authority over Taiwan – it does have governmental authority over Hong Kong. In fact that’s what led to the currently ongoing Hong Kong protests.

I have yet to hear a convincing argument from mainland Chinese that Taiwan is part of China.

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Asia

Who hates China more ABCs or HKers?

None of us hate mainland Chinese, we just don’t like it when there’s people like the question asker who make ridiculous generalizations about either us or Western people based on false assumptions.

For example:
-All Westerners hate China – not true
-All ABC/HKers hate China – not true
-All HKers are protestors = terrorists = not true
-ABC/HKers are conditioned/brainwashed by the Western media to hate China – not true
-ABCs or HKers are required to support China because they are ethnically Chinese and if they don’t it means they are brainwashed by Westerners – not true, they are free human beings, can make their own judgments and can identify with whoever they choose

Where do these assumptions come from? Usually when I see these assumptions, its a result of some mainland Chinese who used VPNs or came abroad, then went to Western social media sites, saw some examples of racism or criticism against them on Youtube/Twitter/Facebook/Quora/etc and then extrapolates and generalizes that they all must hate Chinese based on a few examples they saw.

Here’s some facts I can give you:
-I was raised in Canada – I’m not exactly a CBC but I definitely consider myself more Canadian than Chinese
-I studied Chinese in university and visited/traveled China multiple times, I have many Chinese friends
-I lived in Asia (Korea) for 2 years and go back every year. Visited Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong as well
-I have many ABC friends that went to work in China (Shanghai/Beijing)
-I have many ABC friends that married Chinese women
-I have many HK friends that side with China, not the protestors
-I don’t have any ABC friends that have a positive impression of Trump

based on these facts, I can at least say that around my circle at least, there’s no HKers/ABC “brainwashed” or “conditioned” by Western media to hate China.
Furthermore if you go to China, or even look on the Quora China topic, I think you’ll find many Westerners that live in China, married Chinese or are very supportive of China. So much for all Westerners hating China eh?

I don’t have a problem with Chinese, what I do have a problem is, is when they accuse Westerners/Americans of spreading false or generalized misinformation about China (which I agree that Western media is biased), but then turn around and spread false or generalized beliefs about Westerners as well. Or using America as an example for why China is allowed to boycott/ban/bully etc That’s just hypocrisy. Why does China want to be like America if America is the example they always cite as a bad example/influence on the world?