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Top 25 greatest NBA players by position + other NBA rankings

Now that the NBA season has ended (and what a season it was!) now comes to time to revisit the top 100 greatest players of all time, as well as the top NBA players by position. I’ve decided to discard my old post on this since that post was made back in 2013, and this one has been updated through the new NBA season, with top 25 per position making a total of 100 players here.

These are all gleaned by my composite score for each player, all ranked by tallying their stats and awards together. You can download it here

I’ve also agreed with Rick Barry’s assertion that we should judge NBA players by position, because how can you compare Michael Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain and definitively say one is better than the other when they play totally different positions? You can’t. So let’s go by position. Here’s the new list:

Point Guard

1. Magic Johnson “The Magic Man”
19.5 PPG/7.2 RPG/11.2 APG, 5x Champion, 3x MVP, 3x Finals MVP, 10x All-NBA, 12x All-Star, 9x Finals Appearances (1980, 1982-1985, 1987-1989, 1991)

2. Jerry West “Mr Clutch”
27.0 PPG/5.8 RPG/6.7 APG, 1x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 12x All-NBA, 12x All-Defensive, 14x All Star, 9x Finals Appearances (1962-1963, 1965-1966, 1968-1970, 1972-1973)

3. Oscar Robertson “The Big O”
25.7 PPG/7.5 RPG/9.5 APG, 1x Champion, 1x MVP, 11x All-NBA, 12x All-Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1971, 1974)

4. Bob Cousy “Houdini of the Hardwood”
18.4 PPG/5.2 RPG/7.5 APG, 6x Champion, 1x MVP, 12x All-NBA, 13x All Star, 7x Finals Appearances (1957-1963)

5. Chris Paul “CP3”
18.7 PPG/4.4 RPG/9.5 APG, 7x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, 9x All Star

6. John Stockton
13.1 PPG/2.7 RPG/10.5 APG, 11x All-NBA, 10x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1997-1998)

7. Jason Kidd “J-Kidd”
12.6 PPG/6.3 RPG/8.7 APG, 1x Champion, 6x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, 10x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (2002-2003, 2011)

8. Walt Frazier “Clyde”
18.9 PPG/5.9 RPG/6.1 APG, 2x Champion, 6x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, 7x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1970, 1972-1973)

9. Russell Westbrook “Beastbrook”
23.2 PPG/7.1 RPG/8.3 APG, 1x MVP, 8x All-NBA, 9x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (2012)

10. Stephen Curry “Chef Curry”
23.5 PPG/4.5 RPG/6.6 APG, 3x Champion, 2x MVP, 6x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 5x Finals Appearances (2015-2019)

11. Gary Payton “The Glove”
16.3 PPG/3.9 RPG/6.7 APG, 1x Champion, 9x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, 9x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1996, 2004, 2006)

12. Steve Nash
14.3 PPG/3.0 RPG/8.5 APG, 2x MVP, 7x All-NBA, 8x All Star

13. Isiah Thomas “Zeke”
19.2 PPG/3.6 RPG/9.3 APG, 2x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 5x All-NBA, 12x All-Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1988-1990)

14. Dennis Johnson “DJ”
14.9 PPG/3.9 RPG/5.0 APG, 3x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 2x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, 5x All Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1978-1979, 1984-1987)

15. Tony Parker
15.5 PPG/2.7 RPG/5.6 APG, 4x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 4x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 5x Finals Appearances (2003, 2005, 2007, 2013-2014)

16. Chauncey Billups “Mr Big Shot”
15.2 PPG/2.9 RPG/5.4 APG, 1x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 3x All-NBA, 2x All-Defensive, 5x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (2004, 2005)

17. Tiny Archibald
18.8 PPG/2.3 RPG/7.4 APG, 1x Champion, 5x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1981)

18. Damian Lillard “Dame”
23.1 PPG/4.1 RPG/6.2 APG, 3x All-NBA, 4x All Star

19. Maurice Cheeks
11.1 PPG/2.8 RPG/6.7 APG, 1x Champion, 4x All-Star, 5x All-Defensive, 3x Finals Appearances (1980, 1982-1983)

20. Rajon Rondo
10.7 PPG/4.9 RPG/8.5 APG, 4x All-Star, 1x Champion, 2x Finals Appearances (2008, 2010)

21. Kyrie Irving “Uncle Drew”
22.0 PPG/3.4 RPG/5.5 APG, 1x Champion, 6x All Star, 1x All-NBA, 3x Finals Appearance (2015-2017)

22. Jo Jo White
17.2 PPG/4.0 RPG/4.9 APG, 2x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 2x All-NBA, 7x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1974, 1976)

23. Dave Bing
20.3 PPG/3.8 RPG/6.0 APG, 3x All-NBA, 7x All-Star

24. Kevin Johnson “KJ”
17.9 PPG/3.3 RPG/9.1 APG, 5x All-NBA, 3x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1993)

25. Lenny Wilkens
16.5 PPG/4.7 RPG/6.7 APG, 9x All Star

Shooting Guard

1. Michael Jordan “Air Jordan”
30.1 PPG/6.2 RPG/5.3 APG, 6x Champion, 5x MVP, 6x Finals MVP, 11x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, 14x All Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1991-1993, 1996-1998)

2. Kobe Bryant “The Black Mamba”
25.5 PPG/5.3 RPG/4.8 APG, 5x Champion, 1x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, 15x All-NBA, 12x All-Defensive, 18x All Star, 7x Finals Appearances (2000-2002, 2004, 2008-2010)

3. Dwyane Wade “Flash”
22.0 PPG/4.7 RPG/5.4 APG, 3x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 8x All-NBA, 3x All-Defensive, 12x All Star, 5x Finals Appearances (2006, 2011-2014)

4. Allen Iverson “The Answer”
26.7 PPG/3.7 RPG/6.2 APG, 1x MVP, 7x All-NBA, 11x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (2001)

5. George Gervin “Iceman”
25.1 PPG/5.2 RPG/2.5 APG, 9x All-NBA, 12x All Star

6. James Harden “The Beard”
25.1 PPG/5.3 RPG/6.3 APG, 1x MVP, 6x All-NBA, 8x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (2012)

7. Sam Jones
17.7 PPG/4.9 RPG/2.5 APG, 10x Champion, 3x All-NBA, 5x All Star, 11x Finals Appearances (1958-1966, 1968-1969)

8. Clyde Drexler “The Glide”
20.4 PPG/6.1 RPG/5.6 APG, 1x Champion, 5x All-NBA, 10x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1990, 1992, 1995)

9. Bill Sharman
17.8 PPG/3.9 RPG/3.0 APG, 4x Champion, 7x All-NBA, 8x All Star, 5x Finals Appearances (1957-1961)

10. Ray Allen
18.9 PPG/4.1 RPG/3.4 APG, 2x Champion, 2x All-NBA, 10x All-Star, 4x Finals Appearances (2008, 2010, 2013-2014)

11. Hal Greer
19.2 PPG/5.0 RPG/4.0 APG, 1x Champion, 7x All-NBA, 10x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1967)

12. Tracy McGrady “T-Mac”
19.6 PPG/5.6 RPG/4.4 APG, 5x All-NBA, 7x All Star

13. Joe Dumars
16.1 PPG/2.2 RPG/4.5 APG, 2x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 3x All-NBA, 5x All-Defensive, 6x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1988-1990)

14. Sidney Moncrief
15.6 PPG/4.7 RPG/3.6 APG, 5x All-NBA, 5x All-Defensive, 5x All Star

15. Michael Cooper
8.9 PPG/3.2 RPG/4.2 APG, 8x All-Defensive, 5x Champion, 8x Finals Appearances (1980, 1982-1985, 1987-1989)

16. Reggie Miller
18.2 PPG/3 RPG/3 APG, 5x All-Star, 1x Finals Appearance (2000)

17. Manu Ginobili
14.6 PPG/3.8 RPG/4 APG, 2x All-Star, 4x Champion, 5x Finals Appearances (2003, 2005, 2007, 2013-2014)

18. Vince Carter “Vinsanity”
18.2 PPG/4.6 RPG/3.3 APG, 2x All-NBA, 8x All-Star

19. Mitch Richmond
21.0 PPG/3.9 RPG/3.5 APG, 1x Champion, 3x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (2002)

20. David Thompson “Skywalker”
22.1 PPG/4.1 RPG/3.3 APG, 2x All-NBA, 5x All Star

21. Alvin Robertson
14.0 PPG/5.2 RPG/5.0 APG, 6x All-Defensive, 4x All-Star

22. Walter Davis
18.9 PPG/3.8 RPG/3.0 APG, 6x All-Star, 2x All-NBA

23. Pete Maravich “Pistol”
24.2 PPG/4.2 RPG/5.4 APG, 4x All-ABA, 5x All Star

24. Gail Goodrich
18.6 PPG/3.2 RPG/4.7 APG, 5x All-Star, 1x All-NBA, 1x Champion, 3x Finals Appearances (1968, 1972-1973)

25. Klay Thompson
19.5 PPG/3.5 RPG/2.3 APG, 3x Champion, 5x All-Star, 5x Finals Appearances (2015-2019)

Small Forwards

1. Lebron James “King James”
27.1 PPG/7.4 RPG/7.1 APG, 2x Champion, 4x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, 15x All-NBA, 6x All-Defensive, 16x All Star, 9x Finals Appearances (2007, 2011-2018)

2. Julius Erving “Dr J”
24.2 PPG/6.7 RPG/4.2 APG, 3x Champion, 4x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, 12x All-NBA, 17x All Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1972, 1974, 1976, 1980, 1982-1983)

3. Larry Bird “Larry Legend”
24.3 PPG/10.0 RPG/6.3 APG, 3x Champion, 3x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, 10x All-NBA, 3x All-Defensive, 12x All Star, 5x Finals Appearances (1981, 1984-1987)

4. John Havlicek “Hondo”
20.8 PPG/6.3 RPG/4.8 APG, 8x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 11x All-NBA, 14x All-Defensive, 13x All Star, 8x Finals Appearances (1963-1966, 1968-1969, 1974, 1976)

5. Kevin Durant “KD”
27.4 PPG/6.9 RPG/3.5 APG, 2x Champion, 1x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, 7x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 4x Finals Appearances (2012, 2017-2019)

6. Scottie Pippen “Pip”
16.1 PPG/6.4 RPG/5.2 APG, 6x Champion, 7x All-NBA, 10x All-Defensive, 7x All Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1991-1993, 1996-1998)

7. Rick Barry “The Miami Greyhound”
24.8 PPG/6.7 RPG/4.9 APG, 2x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 6x All-NBA, 8x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1967, 1969, 1975)

8. Elgin Baylor “Mr Inside”
27.4 PPG/13.5 RPG/4.6 APG, 10x All-NBA, 11x All Star, 8x Finals Appearances (1959, 1962-1963, 1965-1966, 1968-1970)

9. Kawhi Leonard “The Klaw”
18.6 PPG/6.4 RPG/2.7 APG, 2x Champion, 2x Finals MVP, 3x All-NBA, 5x All-Defensive, 4x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (2013, 2014, 2019)

10. Paul Arizin
22.8 PPG/8.6 RPG/2.3 APG, 1x Champion, 4x All-NBA, 10x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1956)

11. Paul Pierce “The Truth”
19.7 PPG/5.6 RPG/3.5 APG, 1x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 1x All-NBA, 10x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (2008, 2010)

12. Connie Hawkins “The Hawk”
18.7 PPG/8.8 RPG/4.1 APG, 1x Champion, 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 3x All-NBA, 5x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1968)

13. Bobby Jones
12.1 PPG/6.1 RPG/2.7 APG, 1x Champion, 11x All-Defensive, 5x All-Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1980, 1982, 1983)

14. Adrian Dantley
24.3 PPG/5.7 RPG/3.0 APG, 2x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1988)

15. Billy Cunningham “The Kangaroo Kid”
21.2 PPG/10.4 RPG/4.3 APG, 1x Champion, 1x MVP, 5x All-NBA, 5x All-Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1967)

16. Dominique Wilkins “The Human Highlight Reel”
24.8 PPG/6.7 RPG/2.5 APG, 7x All-NBA, 9x All Star

17. Carmelo Anthony “Melo”
23.6 PPG/6.5 RPG/2.9 APG, 2x All-NBA, 10x All Star

18. Alex English
21.5 PPG/5.5 RPG/3.6 APG, 3x All-NBA, 8x All Star

19. James Worthy “Big Game James”
17.6 PPG/5.1 RPG/3.0 APG, 3x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 2x All-NBA, 7x All Star, 7x Finals Appearances (1983-1985, 1987-1989, 1991)

20. Roger Brown
17.4 PPG/6.2 RPG/3.8 APG, 3x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 3x All-ABA, 4x All Star, 5x Finals Appearances (1969-1970, 1972-1973, 1975)

21. Bernard King
22.5 PPG/5.8 RPG/3.3 APG, 4x All-Star, 3x All-NBA

22. Bob Dandridge
18.5 PPG/6.8 RPG/3.4 APG, 4x All-Star, 1x All-NBA, 2x Champion, 4x Finals Appearances (1971, 1974, 1978, 1979)

23. Jamaal Wilkes
17.7 PPG/6.2 RPG/2.5 APG, 3x All-Star, 2x All-Defensive, 4x Champion, 6x Finals Appearances (1975, 1980, 1982-1985)

24. Andre Iguodala “Iggy”
12.1 PPG/5.1 RPG/4.3 APG, 1x All-Star, 2x All-Defensive, 3x Champion, 5x Finals Appearances (2015-2019)

25. Grant Hill
16.7 PPG/6.0 RPG/4.1 APG, 7x All-Star, 5x All-NBA

Power Forward

1. Tim Duncan “The Big Fundamental”
19.9 PPG/11.1 RPG/3.1 APG, 5x Champion, 2x MVP, 3x Finals MVP, 15x All-NBA, 15x All-Defensive, 15x All Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1999, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2013-2014)

2. Karl Malone “The Mailman”
25.0 PPG/10.1 RPG/3.6 APG, 2x MVP, 14x All-NBA, 14x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1997-1998)

3. Kevin Garnett “KG”
18.6 PPG/10.3 RPG/3.9 APG, 1x Champion, 1x MVP, 9x All-NBA, 12x All-Defensive, 15x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (2008, 2010)

4. Bob Pettit
26.4 PPG/16.2 RPG/3.0 APG, 1x Champion, 2x MVP, 11x All-NBA, 11x All Star, 4x Finals Appearances (1957-1958, 1960-1961)

5. Dirk Nowitzki “The German Juggernaut”
20.7 PPG/7.5 RPG/2.4 APG, 1x Champion, 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 12x All-NBA, 12x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (2006, 2011)

6. Charles Barkley “Sir Charles”
22.1 PPG/11.7 RPG/3.9 APG, 1x MVP, 11x All-NBA, 11x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1993)

7. Dolph Schayes
18.2 PPG/12.1 RPG/3.1 APG, 1x Champion, 12x All-NBA, 12x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1950, 1954, 1955)

8. Elvin Hayes “The Big E”
21.0 PPG/12.5 RPG/1.8 APG, 1x Champion, 6x All-NBA, 12x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1975, 1978-1979)

9. Dennis Rodman “The Worm”
7.3 PPG/13.1 RPG/1.8 APG, 5x Champion, 8x All-Defensive, 2x All-Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1988-1990, 1996-1998)

10. Dan Issel “The Horse”
22.6 PPG/9.1 RPG/2.4 APG, 1x Champion, 5x All-NBA, 7x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1971, 1973, 1975)

11. George McGinnis
20.2 PPG/11.0 RPG/3.7 APG, 2x Champion, 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 5x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1972-1973, 1975)

12. Kevin McHale “The Black Hole”
17.9 PPG/7.3 RPG/1.7 APG, 3x Champion, 1x All-NBA, 6x All-Defensive, 7x All Star, 5x Finals Appearances (1981, 1984-1987)

13. Spencer Haywood
20.3 PPG/10.3 RPG/1.8 APG, 1x Champion, 1x MVP, 5x All-NBA, 5x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1980)

14. Tom Heinsohn
18.6 PPG/8.8 RPG/2.0 APG, 8x Champion, 4x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 9x Finals Appearances (1957-1965)

15. Dave DeBusschere
16.1 PPG/11.0 RPG/2.9 APG, 2x Champion, 1x All-NBA, 10x All-Defensive, 8x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1970, 1972-1973)

16. Anthony Davis “The Brow”
24.0 PPG/10.4 RPG/2.2 APG, 3x All-NBA, 3x All-Defensive, 7x All-Star

17. Pau Gasol
17.0 PPG/9.2 RPG/3.2 APG, 2x Champion, 2x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (2008-2010)

18. Giannis Antetokoumpo “The Greek Freak”
20.0 PPG/8.9 RPG/4.3 APG, 2x MVP, 4x All-Star, 4x All-NBA, 2x All-Defensive

19. Jerry Lucas “The Computer”
17.0 PPG/15.6 RPG/3.3 APG, 1x Champion, 5x All-NBA, 7x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1972-1973)

20. Horace Grant
11.2 PPG/8.1 RPG/2.2 APG, 1x All-Star, 4x All-Defensive, 4x Champion, 6x Finals Appearances (1991-1993, 1995, 2001, 2004)

21. Chris Bosh
19.2 PPG/8.6 RPG/2.0 APG, 11x All-Star, 1x All-NBA, 4x Finals Appearances (2011-2014)

22. Chris Webber “C-Webb”
20.7 PPG/9.8 RPG/4.2 APG, 4x All-NBA, 5x All Star

23. Amare Stoudemire
18.9 PPG/7.8 RPG/1.2 APG, 5x All-NBA, 6x All Star

24. Bailey Howell
18.7 PPG/9.9 RPG/2.0 APG, 2x Champion, 1x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1968, 1969)

25. Vern Mikkelsen
14.4 PPG/9.4 RPG/2.2 APG, 4x Champion, 6x All-Star, 4x All-NBA, 4x Finals Appearances (1950, 1952-1954)

Center

1. Bill Russell
15.1 PPG/22.5 RPG/4.3 APG, 11x Champion, 5x MVP, 11x All-NBA, 13x All-Defensive, 12x All Star, 12x Finals Appearances (1957-1966, 1968-1969)

2. Wilt Chamberlain “The Big Dipper”
30.1 PPG/22.9 RPG/4.4 APG, 2x Champion, 4x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 12x All-Defensive, 10x All-NBA, 13x All Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1964, 1967, 1969-1970, 1972-1973)

2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar “Cap”
24.6 PPG/11.2 RPG/3.6 APG, 6x Champion, 6x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, 15x All-NBA, 11x All-Defensive, 19x All Star, 10x Finals Appearances (1971, 1974, 1980, 1982-1985, 1987-1989)

4. Shaquille O’Neal  “Diesel”
23.7 PPG/10.9 RPG/2.5 APG, 4x Champion, 1x MVP, 3x Finals MVP, 14x All-NBA, 3x All-Defensive, 15x All Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1995, 2000-2002, 2004, 2006)

5. Hakeem Olajuwon “The Dream”
21.8 PPG/11.1 RPG/2.5 APG, 2x Champion, 1x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, 12x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, 12x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1986, 1994-1995)

6. Moses Malone “Chairman of the Boards”
20.6 PPG/12.2 RPG/1.4 APG, 1x Champion, 3x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 8x All-NBA, 2x All-Defensive, 12x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1981, 1983)

7. Artis Gilmore “The A-Train”
18.8 PPG/12.3 RPG/2.3 APG, 1x Champion, 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 5x All-ABA, 11x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1971, 1973, 1975)

8. David Robinson “The Admiral”
21.1 PPG/10.6 RPG/2.5 APG, 2x Champion, 1x MVP, 10x All-NBA, 8x All-Defensive, 10x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1999, 2003)

9. George Mikan “Mr Basketball”
22.6 PPG/13.4 RPG/2.8 APG, 7x Champion, 1x MVP, 6x All-NBA, 4x All Star, 4x Finals Appearances (1950, 1952-1954)

10. Dwight Howard “Superman”
16.8 PPG/12.3 RPG/1.4 APG, 8x All-NBA, 5x All-Defensive, 8x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (2009)

11. Mel Daniels “Big Mel”
18.4 PPG/14.9 RPG/1.8 APG, 3x Champion, 2x MVP, 5x All-ABA, 7x All Star, 5x Finals Appearances (1969-1970, 1972-1973, 1975)

12. Willis Reed “The Captain”
18.7 PPG/12.9 RPG/1.8 APG, 2x Champion, 1x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, 5x All-NBA, 4x All-Defensive, 7x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1970, 1972-1973)

13. Dave Cowens
17.6 PPG/13.6 RPG/3.8 APG, 2x Champion, 1x MVP, 3x All-NBA, 3x All-Defensive, 8x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1974, 1976)

14. Patrick Ewing
21.0 PPG/9.8 RPG/2.0 APG, 7x All-NBA, 3x All-Defensive, 11x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1994)

15. Bob McAdoo
22.1 PPG/9.4 RPG/2.3 APG, 2x Champion, 1x MVP, 2x All-NBA, 5x All Star, 4x Finals Appearances (1982-1985)

16. Robert Parish “The Chief”
14.5 PPG/9.1 RPG/1.4 APG, 4x Champion, 2x All-NBA, 9x All Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1981, 1984-1987, 1997)

17. Dikembe Mutombo
9.8 PPG/10.3 RPG/1 APG, 6x All-Defensive, 8x All-Star, 1x All-NBA, 1x Finals Appearance (2001)

18. Wes Unseld
10.8 PPG/14.0 RPG/3.9 APG, 1x Champion, 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 1x All-NBA, 5x All Star, 4x Finals Appearances (1971, 1975, 1978-1979)

19. Neil Johnston
19.4 PPG/11.3 RPG/2.5 APG, 1x Champion, 5x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1956)

20. Ben Wallace “Big Ben”
5.7 PPG/9.3 RPG/1.6 APG, 4x All-Star, 3x All-NBA, 6x All-Defensive, 1x Champion, 2x Finals Appearances (2004-2005)

21. Walt Bellamy
20.1 PPG/13.7 RPG/2.4 APG, 4x All-Star

22. Zelmo Beaty
16 PPG/10.5 RPG/1.5 APG, 1x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 5x All-Star, 2x All-ABA, 1x Finals Appearance (1971)

23. Alonzo Mourning “Zo”
17.1 PPG/8.5 RPG/1.1 APG, 7x All-Star, 2x All-NBA, 2x All-Defensive, 1x Champion, 1x Finals Appearance (2006)

24. Bob Lanier
20.1 PPG/10.1 RPG/3.1 APG, 8x All Star

25. Bill Walton “Big Red”
13.3 PPG/10.5 RPG/3.4 APG, 2x Champion, 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 2x All-NBA, 2x All-Defensive, 2x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1977, 1986)

Greatest white players in NBA history
1. Larry Bird
2. Jerry West
3. John Havlicek
4. Bob Pettit
5. Bob Cousy
6. John Stockton
7. Rick Barry
8. Dirk Nowitzki
9. Steve Nash
10. Bill Walton
11. George Mikan
12. Dolph Schayes
13. Paul Arizin
14. Dave Cowens
15. Dan Issel
16. Kevin McHale
17. Billy Cunningham
18. Jerry Lucas
19. Pete Maravich
20. Neil Johnston

All-NBA teams for 2K18 simulation
1st team – Lakers uniform range: 92-99

2K20:

Starting: Magic Johnston, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Karl Malone, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Backup: Jerry West, Tracy McGrady, Elgin Baylor, Anthony Davis, Shaq
Reserve: Pau Gasol, James Worthy, George Mikan

Starting: Magic Johnson, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Elvin Hayes, Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Backup: Walt Frazier, Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, Dan Issel, Shaq
Reserve: James Worthy, Tracy McGrady, George Mikan

2nd team – Celtics uniform range 88-98

2K20:

Starting: Bob Cousy, Ray Allen, Larry Bird, Kevin Garnett, Bill Russell
Backup: Dennis Johnson, Sam Jones, John Havlicek, Kevin McHale, Dave Cowens
Reserve: Tom Heinsohn, Paul Pierce, Robert Parish

Starting: Bob Cousy, James Harden, Larry Bird, Kevin Garnett, Bill Russell
Backup: Dennis Johnson, Sam Jones, John Havlicek, Kevin McHale, Dave Cowens
Reserve: Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Tom Heinsohn

3rd team – 76ers uniform range 88-98

2K20:

Starting: Oscar Robertson, Allen Iverson, Julius Erving, George McGinnis, Moses Malone
Backup: Russell Westbrook, Clyde Drexler, Billy Cunningham, Jerry Lucas, Dwight Howard
Reserve: Bobby Jones, Horace Grant, Dikembe Mutombo

Starting: John Stockton, Allen Iverson, Julius Erving, Bob Pettit, Wilt Chamberlain
Backup: Oscar Robertson, Clyde Drexler , Billy Cunningham, Spencer Haywood, Moses Malone
Reserve: Russell Westbrook, Dominique Wilkins, Bob McAdoo

4th team – Bulls uniform range 91-99

2K20:

Starting: Jason Kidd, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dan Issel, Hakeem Olajuwon
Backup: Walt Frazier, Dwayne Wade, Connie Hawkins, Spencer Haywood, Artis Gilmore
Reserve: Tiny Archibald, Dominique Wilkins, Wes Unseld

Starting: Jason Kidd, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing
Backup: Tiny Archibald, David Thompson, George McGinnis, Chris Webber, Wes Unseld
Reserve: Vince Carter, Alex English, Artis Gilmore

5th team – Warriors uniform range 91-98

2K20:

Starting: Steph Curry, James Harden, Kevin Durant, Bob Pettit, Wilt Chamberlain
Backup: John Stockton, Sidney Moncrief, Rick Barry, Elvin Hayes, Patrick Ewing
Reserve: Chris Webber, Jack Sikma, Nate Thurmond

Starting: Steph Curry, Dwayne Wade, Kevin Durant, Dirk Nowitzki, Hakeem Olajuwon
Backup: Chris Paul, Mitch Richmond, Rick Barry, Jerry Lucas, Nate Thurmond
Reserve: Tim Hardaway, Connie Hawkins, Bob Lanier

6th team – Spurs uniform 89-98

2K20:

Starting: Chris Paul, Michael Cooper, George Gervin, Tim Duncan, David Robinson
Backup: Steve Nash, Manu Ginobili, Kawhi Leonard, Dirk Nowitzki, Willis Reed
Reserve: Tony Parker, Chris Bosh, Carmelo Anthony

Starting: Steve Nash, George Gervin, Kawhi Leonard, Tim Duncan, David Robinson
Backup: Gary Payton, Sidney Moncrief, Carmelo Anthony, Anthony Davis, Bill Walton
Reserve: Tony Parker, Blake Griffin, Alonzo Mourning

7th team – Pistons uniform

2K20:

Starting: Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Adrian Dantley, Dave Debusschere, Bob Lanier
Backup: Gary Payton, Mitch Richmond, Giannis, Dennis Rodman, Bill Walton
Reserve: Chauncey Billups, Ben Wallace, Alex English

Starting: Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Grant Hill, Dave Debusschere, Willis Reed
Backup: Dave Bing, Pete Maravich, Adrian Dantley, Amare Stoudemire, Dwight Howard
Reserve: Bernard King, Chauncey Billups, Pau Gasol

Note: All players on these teams are top 125 players all time. Charles Barkley, Hal Greer, Dolph Schayes, Paul Arizin, Neil Johnston, Bill Sharman, Mel Daniels, Roger Brown, Reggie Miller are all missing from the game due to licensing issue else they might have appeared on here.

All-NBA team for each decade
1950s:
PG: Bob Cousy/Slater Martin
SG: Bill Sharman/Richie Guerin
SF: Paul Arizin/George Yardley
PF: Bob Pettit /Dolph Schayes
C: George Mikan/Neil Johnston

1960s:
PG: Oscar Robertson/Dave Bing
SG: Jerry West/Hal Greer
SF: Elgin Baylor/Billy Cunningham
PF: Willis Reed/Jerry Lucas
C: Wilt Chamberlain/Bill Russell

1970s:
PG: Walt Frazier/Tiny Archibald
SG: John Havlicek/Pete Maravich
SF: Rick Barry/Bob McAdoo
PF: Elvin Hayes/Dave Cowens
C: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar/Bill Walton

1980s:
PG: Magic Johnson/Isiah Thomas
SG: George Gervin/Sidney Moncrief
SF: Larry Bird/Dominique Wilkins
PF: Julius Erving/Kevin McHale
C: Moses Malone/Patrick Ewing

1990s:
PG: John Stockton/Gary Payton
SG: Michael Jordan/Mitch Richmond
SF: Scottie Pippen/Clyde Drexler
PF: Karl Malone/Charles Barkley
C: Hakeem Olajuwon/David Robinson

2000s:
PG: Jason Kidd/Steve Nash
SG: Kobe Bryant/Allen Iverson
SF: Dwayne Wade/Paul Pierce
PF: Kevin Garnett/Dirk Nowitzki
C: Shaquille O’Neal/Tim Duncan

2010s:
PG: Chris Paul/Stephen Curry
SG: James Harden/Russell Westbrook
SF: Kevin Durant/Kawhi Leonard
PF: Lebron James/Giannis Antetokounmpo
C: Anthony Davis/Dwight Howard

2K teams
1960s team (Celtics uni): Oscar,Cousy, West, Greer/Sam Jones, Baylor, Cunningham, Pettit,Lucas, Wilt, Russell, Heinsohn, Reed
1970s team (Knicks uni): Frazier, Archibald, Maravich, Thompson, Barry, Hondo, Hayes, Issel, Cowens, Walton, Thurmond, Gervin
1980s team (Lakers uni): Magic, Isiah, Moncrief, Dumars, Bird, Dr J, McHale, Barkley, Moses, Kareem, Dennis Johnson, Wilkins
1990s team (Bulls uni): Stockton, Payton, Jordan, Drexler, Pippen, Hill, Malone, Rodman, Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing, Richmond
2000s team (Spurs uni): Kidd, Nash, Kobe, Iverson, Pierce, Melo, Duncan, Garnett, Shaq, Dwight, Tmac, Webber
2010s team (Warriors uni): Chris Paul, Steph Curry, Wade, Harden, Lebron, Durant, Dirk, Davis, Embiid, Cousins, Westbrook, Giannis

2K Divison teams
All time Atlantic Team:
Starting: Bob Cousy, John Havlicek, Larry Bird, Charles Barkley (76ers) / Kevin McHale (Celtics), Bill Russell (Celtics)
Backup: Jason Kidd (Nets), Allen Iverson (76ers), Julius Erving (76ers), Jerry Lucas (Royals, Knicks), Wilt Chamberlain (76ers)
Reserve: Walt Frazier (Knicks), Willis Reed (Knicks),  Sam Jones (Celtics)

All time Central Team:
Starting: Oscar Robertson (Bucks), Michael Jordan (Bulls), Scottie Pippen (Bulls), Dennis Rodman (Pistons), Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (Bucks)
Backup: Isiah Thomas (Pistons), Joe Dumars (Pistons), Bob Dandridge (Bucks), Dave Debusschere (Pistons), Artis Gilmore (Bulls)
Reserve: George McGinnis (Pacers), Bob Lanier (Pistons) / Mel Daniels (Pacers), Sidney Moncrief (Bucks)

All time Southeast Team:
Starting:  Penny Hardaway (Magic), Dwayne Wade (Heat), Lebron James (Heat), Bob Pettit (Hawks), Dwight Howard (Magic)
Backup: Tim Hardaway (Heat), Tracy McGrady (Magic), Dominique Wilkins (Hawks), Elvin Hayes (Bullets), Wes Unseld (Bullets)
Reserve: Earl Monroe (Wizards), Alonzo Mourning (Heat), Chris Bosh (Heat)

All time Northwest Team:
Starting: John Stockton (Jazz), Clyde Drexler (Blazers), Kevin Durant (Thunder), Karl Malone (Jazz), Bill Walton (Blazers)
Backup: Russell Westbrook (Thunder), Ray Allen (Sonics), Carmelo Anthony (Nuggets), Kevin Garnett (Wolves), Jack Sikma (Sonics)
Reserve: Gary Payton (Sonics), Dan Issel (Nuggets), Spencer Haywood (Sonics)

All time Pacific Team:
Starting: Magic Johnson (Lakers), Kobe Bryant (Lakers), Rick Barry (Warriors), Chris Webber (Kings), Shaq (Center)
Backup: Jerry West (Lakers), Michael Cooper (Lakers), Elgin Baylor (Lakers), Amar’e Stoudemire (Suns), Bob McAdoo (Clippers)
Reserve: Steph Curry (Warriors), Steve Nash (Suns), Connie Hawkins (Suns)

All time Southwest Team:
Starting: Chris Paul (Pelicans), James Harden (Rockets), George Gervin (Spurs), Tim Duncan (Spurs), Hakeem Olajuwon (Rockets)
Backup: Tony Parker (Spurs), Manu Ginobili (Spurs), Kawhi Leonard (Spurs), Dirk Nowitzki (Mavs), Moses Malone (Rockets)
Reserve: David Robinson (Spurs), Anthony Davis (Pelicans), Pau Gasol (Grizzlies)

Greatest players for each NBA team
Boston Celtics – Bill Russell
Brooklyn Nets – Jason Kidd (New York Nets)
New York Knicks – Willis Reed
Philadelphia 76ers – Wilt Chamberlain
Toronto Raptors – Vince Carter
Dallas Mavericks – Dirk Nowitzki
Houston Rockets – Hakeem Olajuwon
Memphis Grizzlies – Marc Gasol
New Orleans Pelicans – Chris Paul (New Orleans Hornets)
San Antonio Spurs – Tim Duncan
Chicago Bulls – Michael Jordan
Cleveland Cavaliers – Lebron James
Detroit Pistons – Isiah Thomas
Indiana Pacers – Mel Daniels
Milwaukee Bucks – Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Denver Nuggets – Alex English
Minnesota Timberwolves – Kevin Garnett
Oklahoma City Thunder – Gary Payton (Supersonics)
Portland Trail Blazers – Clyde Drexler
Utah Jazz – Karl Malone
Atlanta Hawks – Bob Pettit (St Louis Hawks)
Charlotte Hornets – Alonzo Mourning
Miami Heat – Dwyane Wade
Orlando Magic – Dwight Howard
Washington Wizards – Wes Unseld (Baltimore Bullets)
Golden State Warriors – Stephen Curry
Los Angeles Clippers – Bob McAdoo
Los Angeles Lakers – Magic Johnson
Phoenix Suns – Steve Nash
Sacramento Kings – Oscar Robertson (Cincinnati Royals)

Top 10 what if? careers in NBA history
1. Bill Walton (ankle injuries limited him, but when healthy was MVP, Finals MVP and champion)
2. Arvydas Sabonis (came into NBA post prime but was supposedly one of the most skilled big men ever like a 7’3 foot Hakeem)
3. Maurice Stokes (averaged 16 points and 17 rebounds a game before hitting his head on the floor and becoming a quadriplegic for the rest of his life 🙁 )
4. David Thompson (was pre-Michael Jordan basically before he got into coke problems in the late 70s; scored 73 points in a game before)
5. Grant Hill (was pre-Lebron James before ankle injuries)
6. Drazen Petrovic (a rising all star shooting guard before he died in a car accident only 28 years old)
7. Bernard King (averaged 33 points a game and was on his way becoming a top forward in the 80s before he tore his ACL and wasnt the same again)
8. Penny Hardaway (a Magic-like player who was one of the top point guards before injuries got to him)
9. Derrick Rose (former MVP who was going to be one of the top point guards of his generation but tore his ACL and wasnt the same again)
10.Tracy McGrady (could have been better than Kobe and Iverson if he didn’t have so many back injuries)
Honorable mentions: Yao Ming, Len Bias (never played in NBA but died of cocaine overdose before he could have), Pete Maravich (at his peak before suffering knee injuries), Ralph Sampson

Top 10 #1 draft picks all time

1. Kareem Abdul Jabbar (1969)
2. Lebron James (2003)
3. Magic Johnson (1979)
4. Tim Duncan (1997)
5. Shaquille O’Neal (1992)
6. Hakeem Olajuwon (1984)
7. David Robinson (1987)
8. Allen Iverson (1996)
9. Elgin Baylor (1958)
10. Dwight Howard (2004)

Top 20 greatest college players of all time

  1. Kareem Abdul Jabbar (26.4 PPG, 15.5 RPG)
  2. Bill Walton (20.3 PPG, 15.7 RPG)
  3. Bill Russell (20.7 PPG, 20.3 RPG)
  4. Pete Maravich (44.2 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 5.1 APG)
  5. Oscar Robertson (33.8 PPG, 15.2 RPG)
  6. David Thompson (26.8 PPG, 8.1 RPG)
  7. Jerry Lucas (24.3 PPG, 17.2 RPG)
  8. Tom Gola (20.9 PPG, 18.7 RPG)
  9. Elvin Hayes (31 PPG, 17.2 RPG)
  10. Larry Bird (30.3 PPG, 13.3 RPG, 4.6 APG)
  11. Christian Laettner (16.6 PPG, 7.8 RPG, 1.8 APG)
  12. Ralph Sampson (16.9 PPG, 11.4 RPG)
  13. Wilt Chamberlain (29.9 PPG, 18.3 RPG)
  14. Shaq (21.6 PPG, 13.5 RPG, 1.7 APG)
  15. Tim Duncan (16.5 PPG, 12.3 RPG, 2.3 APG)
  16. Magic Johnson (17.1 PPG, 7.6 RPG, 7.9 APG)
  17. Jerry West (24.8 PPG, 13.3 RPG, 2.8 APG)
  18. Artis Gilmore (24.3 PPG, 22.7 RPG)
  19. Tyler Hansborough (20.2 PPG, 8.6 RPG, 1.1 APG)
  20. Dan Issel (25.8 PPG, 12.9 RPG, 1.2 APG)

Top 20 greatest offensive players of all time

1. Michael Jordan (10x scoring titles, 12x seasons 25pts+)
2. Wilt Chamberlain (7x scoring titles, 10x seasons 25pts+)
3. Kobe Bryant (2x scoring titles, 12x seasons 25pts+)
4. Jerry West (1x scoring title, 11x seasons 25pts+)
5. Allen Iverson (4x scoring titles, 11x seasons 25pts+)
6. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (2x scoring titles, 10x seasons 25pts+)
7. Karl Malone (12x seasons 25pts+)
8. Kevin Durant (4x scoring titles, 9x seasons 25pts+)
9. Dominique Wilkins (1x scoring title, 10x seasons 25pts+)
10. George Gervin (4x scoring titles, 8x seasons 25pts+)
11. Lebron James (1x scoring title, 13x seasons 25pts+)
12. Shaquille O’Neal (2x scoring titles, 10x seasons 25pts+)
13. Elgin Baylor (8x seasons 25pts+)
14. Oscar Robertson (9x seasons 25pts+)
15. Rick Barry (2x scoring titles, 8x seasons 25pts+)
16. Bob Pettit (2x scoring titles, 7x seasons 25pts+)
17. Bob McAdoo (3x scoring titles, 7x seasons 25pts+)
18. Adrian Dantley (2x scoring titles, 8x seasons 25pts+)
19 Carmelo Anthony (1x scoring title, 9x seasons 25pts+)
20. Alex English (1x scoring title, 8x seasons 25pts+)

Top 20 greatest defensive players of all time
1. Bill Russell (4x rebounding leader, 1x All-D 1st team)
2. Wilt Chamberlain (11x rebounding leader, 2x All-D 1st team)
3. Hakeem Olajuwon (2x rebounding leader, 3x blocks leader, 2x DPOY, 5x All-D 1st team)
4. Dikembe Mutombo (2x rebounding leader, 3x blocks leader, 4x DPOY, 3x All-D 1st team)
5. Nate Thurmond (2x All-D 1st team)
6. Ben Wallace (2x rebounding leader, 1x blocks leader, 4x DPOY, 5x All-D 1st team)
7. David Robinson (1x rebounding leader, 1x blocks leader, 1x DPOY, 4x All-D 1st team)
8. Kevin Garnett (4x rebounding leader, 1x DPOY, 9x All-D 1st team)
9. Dennis Rodman (7x rebounding leader, 2x DPOY, 7x All-D 1st team)
10. Scottie Pippen (1x steals leader, 8x All-D 1st team)
11. Michael Jordan (3x steals leader, 1x DPOY, 9x All-D 1st team)
12. Dwight Howard (5x rebounding leader, 2x blocks leader, 3x DPOY, 4x All-D 1st team)
13. Gary Payton (1x steals leader, 1x DPOY, 9x All-D 1st team)
14. Sidney Moncrief (2x DPOY, 4x All-D 1st team)
15. Tim Duncan (8x All-D 1st team)
16. Walt Frazier (7x All-D 1st team)
17. Kawhi Leonard (1x steals leader, 2x DPOY, 3x All-D 1st team)
18. Bobby Jones (8x All-D 1st team)
19. Mark Eaton (4x blocks leader, 2x DPOY, 3x All-D 1st team)
20. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1x rebounding leader, 4x blocks leader, 5x All-D 1st team)

Top 20 Greatest NBA teams of all time
1. 1996 Chicago Bulls (72-10, 15-3, HOFers: Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman)
2. 2017 Golden State Warriors (67-15, 16-1, HOFers: Stephen Curry, Kevin Durant, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green)
3. 1997 Chicago Bulls (69-13, 15-4, HOFers: Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman)
4. 1967 Philadelphia 76ers (68-13, 15-4, HOFers: Wilt Chamberlain, Billy Cunningham, Hal Greer, Chet Walker)
5. 1972 LA Lakers (69-13, 12-3, HOFers: Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain, Gail Goodrich, Elgin Baylor)
6. 1986 Boston Celtics (67-15, 15-3, HOFers: Larry Bird, Robert Parish, Kevin McHale, Dennis Johnson, Bill Walton)
7. 1971 Milwaukee Bucks (66-16, 12-2, HOFers: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Oscar Robertson) 60
8. 1987 LA Lakers (65-17, 15-3, HOFers: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, James Worthy) 60
9. 1992 Chicago Bulls (67-15, 15-7, HOFers: Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen)60
10. 1983 Philadelphia 76ers (65-17, 12-1, HOFers: Julius Erving, Moses Malone) 59
11. 2013 Miami Heat (66-16, 16-7, HOFers: Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Ray Allen) 59
12. 2009 LA Lakers (65-15, 16-7, HOFers: Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol)59
13. 1989 Detroit Pistons (63-19, 15-2, HOFers: Adrian Dantley, Joe Dumars, Isiah Thomas, Dennis Rodman)57
14. 2008 Boston Celtics (66-16, 16-10, HOFers: Rajon Rondo, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce) 56
15. 1985 LA Lakers (62-20, 15-4, HOFers: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Bob McAdoo, Jamaal Wilkes, James Worthy) 53
16. 1999 San Antonio Spurs (37-13, 15-2, HOFers: Tim Duncan, David Robinson) 53
17. 1965 Boston Celtics (62-18, 8-4, HOFers: John Havlicek, Tom Heinsohn, KC Jones, Sam Jones, Satch Sanders, Bill Russell)
18. 2001 LA Lakers (56-26, 15-1, HOFers: Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O’Neal)
19. 1970 New York Knicks (60-22, 12-7, HOFers: Bill Bradley, Dave Debusschere, Walt Frazier, Willis Reed)
20. 1961 Boston Celtics (57-22, 8-2, HOFers: Bob Cousy, Tom Heinsohn, KC Jones, Sam Jones, Frank Ramsey, Bill Russell, Satch Sanders, Bill Sharman)

Here’s my take on the 100 greatest players in NBA/ABA history as of 2020

  1. Bill Russell “Russell” – 11x Champion, 5x MVP – 15.1 PPG/22.5 RPG/4.3 APG
  2. Michael Jordan “Air Jordan” – 6x Champion, 5x MVP – 30.1 PPG/6.2 RPG/5.3 APG
  3. Wilt Chamberlain “The Big Dipper” – 4x MVP, 11x Rebounding leader – 30.1 PPG/22.9 RPG/4.4 APG
  4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar “Cap” – 6x Champion, 6x MVP – 24.6 PPG/11.2 RPG/3.6 APG
  5. Lebron James “King James” – 4x MVP, 3x Finals MVP – 27.1 PPG/7.4 RPG/7.4 APG
  6. Tim Duncan “The Big Fundamental” – 5x Champion, 2x MVP – 19.0 PPG/10.8 RPG/3.0 APG
  7. Kobe Bryant “The Black Mamba” – 5x Champion, 1x MVP – 25.0 PPG/5.2 RPG/4.7 APG
  8. Julius Erving “Dr. J” – 3x Champion, 4x MVP – 24.2 PPG/6.7 RPG/4.2 APG
  9. Magic Johnson – 5x Champion, 3x MVP – 19.5 PPG/7.2 RPG/11.2 APG
  10. Shaquille O’Neal “Diesel” – 4x Champion, 3x Finals MVP – 23.7 PPG/10.9 RPG/2.5 APG
  11. Larry Bird “Larry Legend” – 3x Champion, 3x MVP – 24.3 PPG/10.0 RPG/6.3 APG
  12. Karl Malone “The Mailman” – 2x MVP, 13x All-NBA – 25.0 PPG/10.1 RPG/3.6 APG
  13. Hakeem Olajuwon “The Dream” – 2x Champion, 2x Finals MVP – 21.8 PPG/11.1 RPG/2.5 APG
  14. Jerry West “Mr. Clutch” – 1x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 27.0 PPG/5.8 RPG/6.7 APG
  15. Oscar Robertson “The Big O” – 1x Champion, 1x MVP – 25.7 PPG/7.5 RPG/9.5 APG
  16. Kevin Garnett “The Big Ticket” – 1x MVP, 12x All-Defensive -18.6 PPG/10.3 RPG/3.9 APG
  17. Moses Malone “Chairman of the Boards” – 1x Champion, 3x MVP – 20.6 PPG/12.2 RPG/1.4 APG
  18. Artis Gilmore “A-Train” – 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP – 18.8 PPG/12.3 RPG/2.3 APG
  19. Bob Pettit – 1x Champion, 2x MVP – 26.4 PPG/16.2 RPG/3.0 APG
  20. Bob Cousy “Houdini of the Hardwood” – 6x Champion, 1x MVP – 18.4 PPG/5.2 RPG/7.5 APG
  21. John Havlicek “Hondo” – 8x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 20.8 PPG/6.3 RPG/4.8 APG
  22. Kevin Durant “Durantula” – 1x MVP, 2x Finals MVP – 27.4 PPG/6.9 RPG/3.5 APG
  23. David Robinson “The Admiral” – 2x Champion, 1x MVP – 21.1 PPG/10.6 RPG/2.5 APG
  24. Chris Paul “CP3” – 8x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive – 18.7 PPG/4.4 RPG/9.5 APG
  25. George Mikan “Mr Basketball” – 5x Champion, 3x Scoring leader – 23.1 PPG/13.4 RPG/2.8 APG
  26. Dirk Nowitzki “The German Juggernaut” – 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP – 20.7 PPG/7.5 RPG/2.4 APG
  27. John Stockton – 8x All-NBA, 9x Assist leader – 13.1 PPG/2.7 RPG/10.5 APG
  28. Scottie Pippen “Pip” – 6x Champion, 10x All-Defensive – 16.1 PPG/6.4 RPG/5.2 APG
  29. Rick Barry “The Miami Greyhound” – 1x Finals MVP, 10x All-NBA/ABA – 24.8 PPG/6.7 RPG/4.9 APG
  30. Charles Barkley “Round Mound of Rebound” – 1x MVP, 10x All-NBA – 22.1 PPG/11.7 RPG/3.9 APG
  31. Dwight Howard “Superman” – 6x All-NBA, 5x Rebounding leader – 16.8 PPG/12.3 RPG/1.4 APG
  32. Jason Kidd “J-Kidd” – 6x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive – 12.6 PPG/6.3 RPG/8.7 APG
  33. Elgin Baylor “Mr. Inside” – 10x All-NBA, 11x All-Star – 27.4 PPG/13.5 RPG/4.6 APG
  34. Dolph Schayes – 1x Champion, 12x All-NBA – 18.2 PPG/12.1 RPG/3.1 APG
  35. Elvin Hayes “The Big E” – 1x Champion, 6x All-NBA – 21.0 PPG/12.5 RPG/1.8 APG
  36. Walt Frazier “Clyde” – 2x Champion, 9x All-Defensive – 18.9 PPG/5.9 RPG/6.1 APG
  37. Dwayne Wade “Flash” – 3x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 22.0 PPG/4.7 RPG/5.4 APG
  38. Mel Daniels “Big Mel” – 3x Champion, 2x MVP – 18.4 PPG/14.9 RPG/1.8 APG
  39. Russell Westbrook “Beastbrook” – 1x MVP, 7x All-NBA – 23.2 PPG/7.1 RPG/8.3 APG
  40. Stephen Curry “Chef Curry” – 3x Champion, 2x MVP – 23.5 PPG/4.5 RPG/6.6 APG
  41. Allen Iverson “The Answer” – 1x MVP, 4x Scoring leader – 26.7 PPG/3.7 RPG/6.2 APG
  42. Gary Payton “The Glove” – 7x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive – 16.3 PPG/3.9 RPG/6.7 APG
  43. George Gervin “The Iceman” – 9x All-NBA/ABA, 4x Scoring leader – 25.1 PPG/5.2 RPG/2.5 APG
  44. James Harden “The Beard” – 1x MVP, 7x All-NBA – 25.1 PPG/5.3 RPG/6.3 APG
  45. Dennis Rodman “The Worm” – 8x All-Defensive, 7x Rebounding leader – 7.3 PPG/13.1 RPG/1.8 APG
  46. Steve Nash – 2x MVP, 5x Assist leader – 14.3 PPG/3.0 RPG/8.5 APG
  47. Willis Reed “Captain” – 1x MVP, 2x Finals MVP – 18.7 PPG/12.9 RPG/1.8 APG
  48. Kawhi Leonard “The Claw” – 2x Champion, 2x Finals MVP – 18.6 PPG/6.4 RPG/2.7 APG
  49. Dan Issel “The Horse” – 1x Champion, 5x All-ABA – 22.6 PPG/9.1 RPG/2.4 APG
  50. Isiah Thomas “Zeke” – 2x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 19.2 PPG/3.6 RPG/9.3 APG
  51. George McGinnis – 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP – 20.2 PPG/11.0 RPG/3.7 APG
  52. Sam Jones – 10x Champion, 3x All-NBA – 17.7 PPG/4.9 RPG/2.5 APG
  53. Paul Arizin “Pitchin Paul” – 1x Champion, 2x Scoring leader – 22.8 PPG/8.6 RPG/2.3 APG
  54. Dave Cowens – 2x Champion, 1x MVP – 17.6 PPG/13.6 RPG/3.8 APG
  55. Patrick Ewing – 7x All-NBA, 11x All-Star – 21.0 PPG/9.8 RPG/2.0 APG
  56. Kevin McHale “The Black Hole” – 3x Champion, 6x All-Defensive – 17.9 PPG/7.3 RPG/1.7 APG
  57. Dennis Johnson “DJ” – 3x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 14.9 PPG/3.9 RPG/5.0 APG
  58. Spencer Haywood – 1x Champion, 1x MVP – 20.3 PPG/10.3 RPG/1.8 APG
  59. Bob McAdoo – 1x MVP, 3x Scoring leader – 22.1 PPG/9.4 RPG/2.3 APG
  60. Robert Parish “The Chief” – 4x Champion, 2x All-NBA – 14.5 PPG/9.1 RPG/1.4 APG
  61. Tom Heinsohn – 8x Champion, 4x All-NBA – 18.6 PPG/8.8 RPG/2.0 APG
  62. Dave Debusschere – 2x Champion, 10x All-Defensive – 16.1 PPG/11.0 RPG/2.9 APG
  63. Anthony Davis “The Brow” – 4x All-NBA, 4x All-Defensive – 24.0 PPG/10.4 RPG/2.2 APG
  64. Paul Pierce “The Truth” – 1x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 19.7 PPG/5.6 RPG/3.5 APG
  65. Connie Hawkins “The Hawk” – 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP – 18.7 PPG/8.8 RPG/4.1 APG
  66. Tony Parker – 4x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 15.5 PPG/2.7 RPG/5.6 APG
  67. Clyde Drexler “The Glide” – 1x Champion, 3x All-NBA – 20.4 PPG/6.1 RPG/5.6 APG
  68. Pau Gasol – 2x Champion, 6x All-Star – 17.0 PPG/9.2 RPG/3.2 APG
  69. Dikembe Mutombo – 6x All-Defensive, 2x Rebounding leader – 9.8 PPG/10.3 RPG/1 APG
  70. Wes Unseld “Big Wes” – 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP – 10.8 PPG/14.0 RPG/3.9 APG
  71. Bobby Jones – 1x Champion, 11x All-Defensive – 12.1 PPG/6.1 RPG/2.7 APG
  72. Bill Sharman – 4x Champion, 7x All-NBA – 17.8 PPG/3.9 RPG/3.0 APG
  73. Adrian Dantley – 2x All-NBA, 2x Scoring leader – 24.3 PPG/5.7 RPG/3.0 APG
  74. Neil Johnston – 1x Champion, 3x Scoring leader – 19.4 PPG/11.3 RPG/2.5 APG
  75. Billy Cunningham “Kangaroo Kid” – 1x Champion, 1x MVP – 21.2 PPG/10.4 RPG/4.3 APG
  76. Giannis Antetokounmpo “The Greek Freak” – 2x MVP, 5x All-NBA – 20.0 PPG/8.9 RPG/4.3 APG
  77. Jerry Lucas “The Computer” – 1x Champion, 5x All-NBA – 17.0 PPG/15.6 RPG/3.3 APG
  78. Dominique Wilkins “The Human Highlight Reel” – 5x All-NBA, 1x Scoring leader – 24.8 PPG/6.7 RPG/2.5 APG
  79. Ben Wallace “Big Ben” – 1x Champion, 6x All-Defensive – 5.7 PPG/9.6 RPG/1.3 APG
  80. Ray Allen – 2x Champion, 10x All-Star – 18.9 PPG/4.1 RPG/3.4 APG
  81. Hal Greer – 1x Champion, 7x All-NBA – 19.2 PPG/5.0 RPG/4.0 APG
  82. Tracy McGrady “T-mac” – 5x All-NBA, 2x Scoring leader – 19.6 PPG/5.6 RPG/4.4 APG
  83. Joe Dumars – 2x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 16.1 PPG/2.2 RPG/4.5 APG
  84. Sidney Moncrief – 5x All-NBA, 5x All-Defensive – 15.6 PPG/4.7 RPG/3.6 APG
  85. Carmelo Anthony “Melo” – 2x All-NBA, 1x Scoring leader – 23.6 PPG/6.5 RPG/2.9 APG
  86. Alex English – 3x All-NBA, 1x Scoring leader – 21.5 PPG/5.5 RPG/3.6 APG
  87. James Worthy “Big Game James” – 3x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 17.6 PPG/5.1 RPG/3.0 APG
  88. Walt Bellamy – 4x All-Star – 20.1 PPG/13.7 RPG/2.4 APG
  89. Zelmo Beaty – 1x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 16 PPG/10.5 RPG/1.5 APG
  90. Chauncey Billups “Mr Big Shot” – 1x Champion, 1x Finals MVP -15.2 PPG/2.9 RPG/5.4 APG
  91. Horace Grant – 4x Champion, 4x All-Defensive – 11.2 PPG/8.1 RPG/2.2 APG
  92. Alonzo Mourning “Zo” – 1x Champion, 7x All-Star – 17.1 PPG/8.5 RPG/1.1 APG
  93. Bob Lanier – 8x All-Star – 20.1 PPG/10.1 RPG/3.1 APG
  94. Roger Brown – 3x Champion, 1x Finals MVP -17.4 PPG/6.2 RPG/3.8 APG
  95. Tiny Archibald – 1x Champion, 5x All-NBA – 18.8 PPG/2.3 RPG/7.4 APG
  96. Chris Bosh – 2x Champion, 11x All-Star – 19.2 PPG/8.6 RPG/2.0 APG
  97. Michael Cooper – 5x Champion, 8x All-Defensive – 8.9 PPG/3.2 RPG/4.2 APG
  98. Chris Webber “C-Webb” – 4x All-NBA, 1x Rebounding leader – 20.7 PPG/9.8 RPG/4.2 APG
  99. Bill Walton – 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP – 13.3 PPG/10.5 RPG/3.4 APG
  100. Reggie Miller – 5x All Star – 18.2 PPG/3.0 RPG/3.0 APG
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Awards based ranking of NBA players all time

Since stats don’t tell everything lets use an awards based ranking of the top 50 NBA players.

1) I’m going to start from the 1950s which means there’s no such awards like defensive player of the year, sixth man of the year, all nba third team, blocks leader or steals leader so I don’t count those.

Edit: I realize this will skew the numbers in favor of offensive players, but there’s simply no way to account for defensive statistics when they weren’t recorded back in the day. No blocks, no steals from such defensive players as Russell, Wilt, West, Frazier, 4 years of Kareem, Thurmond, etc. It wouldn’t be fair to those guys to record it for modern players but not them.

2) I’m going to give some imaginary Finals MVPs to players before 1969 so that Finals MVPs can be properly accounted for.
1955 – Dolph Schayes
1956 – Paul Arizin
1957 – Bill Russell
1958 – Bob Pettit
1959 – Bill Russell
1960 – Bill Russell
1961 – Bill Russell
1962 – Bill Russell
1963 – Bill Russell
1964 – Bill Russell
1965 – Bill Russell
1966 – Bill Russell
1967 – Wilt Chamberlain
1968 – Bill Russell

3) And some MVPs as well
1955 – Bob Cousy

4) the following rules:
All star selections are worth 1 point.
All star MVPs are worth 2 points.
All NBA second team selections are worth 1 point.
All NBA first team selections are worth 2 points.
Rebounding/Scoring/Assist titles are worth 3 points
Rookie of the Year is worth 2 points
Championships are worth 3 points
MVPs and Finals MVPs are worth 5 points
ABA awards will be treated as NBA awards to be fair to ABA players

The results are, surprisingly, very close to what you would expect, except some players (like Bob Cousy and Bob Pettit) are vastly underrated by the public, and some players (like Reggie Miller and Patrick Ewing) are overrated by the public. The scores range from a measly 5 (Reggie Miller) to a staggering 146 (Michael Jordan).

Surprisingly, it also lets us see which players are essentially equal with each other. Oscar Robertson is about as good as Bob Pettit in terms of greatness. Rick Barry, Jerry West and Karl Malone are about equal. Allen Iverson and Sam Jones are about equal. Or Jason Kidd and Steve Nash. Or Willis Reed and Isiah Thomas. Or Dave Cowens and Wes Unseld. Or Charles Barkley and Dwayne Wade. These sound about right to me.

You can download the results here:

awards and stats based ranking

Top 25 scoring results (top 25 players all time)
1. Bill Russell
2. Michael Jordan
3. Wilt Chamberlain
4. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
5. Magic Johnson
6. Bob Cousy
7. Kobe Bryant
8. Tim Duncan
9. Julius Erving
10. Shaquille O’Neal
11. Lebron James
12. Bob Pettit
13. Larry Bird
14. Oscar Robertson
15. Moses Malone
16. Jerry West
17. Hakeem Olajuwon
18. Karl Malone
19. John Havlicek
20. Rick Barry
21. George Mikan
22. Allen Iverson
23. Kevin Garnett
24. Dolph Schayes
25. Elgin Baylor

This is somewhat what people expect, besides Cousy being ranked so high possibly due to his championships, and surprisingly, Julius Erving over Bird/Lebron possibly due to his ABA credentials.

Going by these, results who are the All-NBA teams of all time?
All time All-NBA First Team
1. Bob Cousy
2. Michael Jordan
3. Julius Erving
4. Tim Duncan
5. Wilt Chamberlain

All time All-NBA Second Team
1. Magic Johnson
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Lebron James
4. Bob Pettit
5. Bill Russell

All time All-NBA Third Team
1. Oscar Robertson
2. Jerry West
3. Larry Bird
4. Karl Malone
5. Kareem Abdul Jabbar

All-NBA 50s/60s Team:
Guards: Bob Cousy, Oscar Robertson
Forwards: Bob Pettit, Elgin Baylor
Center: Wilt Chamberlain
Combined points: 829

All-NBA 70s Team:
Guards: George Gervin, Walt Frazier
Forwards: Julius Erving, Rick Barry
Center: Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Combined points: 681

All-NBA 80s Team:
Guards: Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas
Forwards: Larry Bird, Dominique Wilkins
Center: Moses Malone
Combined points: 645

All-NBA 90s Team:
Guards: Michael Jordan, John Stockton
Forwards: Karl Malone, Charles Barkley
Center: Hakeem Olajuwon
Combined points: 706

All-NBA 00s Team:
Guards: Kobe Bryant, Allen Iverson
Forwards: Tim Duncan, Lebron James
Center: Shaquille O’neal
Combined points: 735

So 50s/60s > 00s > 90s > 70s > 80s which is interesting considering most people think the 80s is the most competitive decade.

Again, more or less what you would expect. If you have any feedback about these rankings please comment!