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Top 25 greatest NBA players by position + other NBA rankings

Now that the NBA season has ended (and what a season it was!) now comes to time to revisit the top 100 greatest players of all time, as well as the top NBA players by position. I’ve decided to discard my old post on this since that post was made back in 2013, and this one has been updated through the new NBA season, with top 25 per position making a total of 100 players here.

These are all gleaned by my composite score for each player, all ranked by tallying their stats and awards together. You can download it here

I’ve also agreed with Rick Barry’s assertion that we should judge NBA players by position, because how can you compare Michael Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain and definitively say one is better than the other when they play totally different positions? You can’t. So let’s go by position. Here’s the new list:

Point Guard

1. Magic Johnson “The Magic Man”
19.5 PPG/7.2 RPG/11.2 APG, 5x Champion, 3x MVP, 3x Finals MVP, 10x All-NBA, 12x All-Star, 9x Finals Appearances (1980, 1982-1985, 1987-1989, 1991)

2. Oscar Robertson “The Big O”
25.7 PPG/7.5 RPG/9.5 APG, 1x Champion, 1x MVP, 11x All-NBA, 12x All-Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1971, 1974)

3. Bob Cousy “Houdini of the Hardwood”
18.4 PPG/5.2 RPG/7.5 APG, 6x Champion, 1x MVP, 12x All-NBA, 13x All Star, 7x Finals Appearances (1957-1963)

4. Chris Paul “CP3”
18.5 PPG/4.5 RPG/9.5 APG, 8x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, 10x All Star

5. John Stockton
13.1 PPG/2.7 RPG/10.5 APG, 11x All-NBA, 10x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1997-1998)

6. Stephen Curry “Chef Curry”
23.5 PPG/4.5 RPG/6.6 APG, 3x Champion, 2x MVP, 5x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 5x Finals Appearances (2015-2019)

7. Jason Kidd “J-Kidd”
12.6 PPG/6.3 RPG/8.7 APG, 1x Champion, 6x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, 10x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (2002-2003, 2011)

8. Walt Frazier “Clyde”
18.9 PPG/5.9 RPG/6.1 APG, 2x Champion, 6x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, 7x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1970, 1972-1973)

9. Isiah Thomas “Zeke”
19.2 PPG/3.6 RPG/9.3 APG, 2x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 5x All-NBA, 12x All-Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1988-1990)

10. Russell Westbrook “Beastbrook”
23.2 PPG/7.1 RPG/8.3 APG, 1x MVP, 7x All-NBA, 9x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (2012)

11. Steve Nash
14.3 PPG/3.0 RPG/8.5 APG, 2x MVP, 7x All-NBA, 8x All Star

12. Gary Payton “The Glove”
16.3 PPG/3.9 RPG/6.7 APG, 1x Champion, 9x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, 9x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1996, 2004, 2006)

13. Dennis Johnson “DJ”
14.9 PPG/3.9 RPG/5.0 APG, 3x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 2x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, 5x All Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1978-1979, 1984-1987)

14. Tiny Archibald
18.8 PPG/2.3 RPG/7.4 APG, 1x Champion, 5x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1981)

15. Tony Parker
15.5 PPG/2.7 RPG/5.6 APG, 4x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 3x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 5x Finals Appearances (2003, 2005, 2007, 2013-2014)

16. Chauncey Billups “Mr Big Shot”
15.2 PPG/2.9 RPG/5.4 APG, 1x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 1x All-NBA, 2x All-Defensive, 5x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (2004, 2005)

17. Damian Lillard “Dame”
24.2 PPG/4.2 RPG/6.5 APG, 4x All-NBA, 5x All Star

18. Kyrie Irving “Uncle Drew”
22.4 PPG/3.7 RPG/5.7 APG, 1x Champion, 1x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 3x Finals Appearance (2015-2017)

19. Rajon Rondo
10.2 PPG/4.7 RPG/8.3 APG, 2x Champion, 4x All-Defensive, 4x All-Star, 3x Finals Appearances (2008, 2010, 2020)

20. Maurice Cheeks
11.1 PPG/2.8 RPG/6.7 APG, 1x Champion, 5x All-Defensive, 4x All-Star,  3x Finals Appearances (1980, 1982-1983)

21. Jo Jo White
17.2 PPG/4.0 RPG/4.9 APG, 2x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 2x All-NBA, 7x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1974, 1976)

22. Dave Bing
20.3 PPG/3.8 RPG/6.0 APG, 3x All-NBA, 7x All-Star

23. Kevin Johnson “KJ”
17.9 PPG/3.3 RPG/9.1 APG, 5x All-NBA, 3x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1993)

24. Lenny Wilkens
16.5 PPG/4.7 RPG/6.7 APG, 9x All Star

25. Tim Hardaway
17.7 PPG/3.3 RPG/8.2 APG, 4x All-NBA, 5x All-Star

Shooting Guard

1. Michael Jordan “Air Jordan”
30.1 PPG/6.2 RPG/5.3 APG, 6x Champion, 5x MVP, 6x Finals MVP, 11x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, 14x All Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1991-1993, 1996-1998)

2. Kobe Bryant “The Black Mamba”
25.0 PPG/5.2 RPG/4.7 APG, 5x Champion, 1x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, 13x All-NBA, 12x All-Defensive, 18x All Star, 7x Finals Appearances (2000-2002, 2004, 2008-2010)

3. Jerry West “Mr Clutch”
27.0 PPG/5.8 RPG/6.7 APG, 1x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 12x All-NBA, 12x All-Defensive, 14x All Star, 9x Finals Appearances (1962-1963, 1965-1966, 1968-1970, 1972-1973)

4. Dwyane Wade “Flash”
22.0 PPG/4.7 RPG/5.4 APG, 3x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 8x All-NBA, 3x All-Defensive, 12x All Star, 5x Finals Appearances (2006, 2011-2014)

5. James Harden “The Beard”
25.2 PPG/5.3 RPG/6.3 APG, 1x MVP, 6x All-NBA, 8x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (2012)

6. Allen Iverson “The Answer”
26.7 PPG/3.7 RPG/6.2 APG, 1x MVP, 7x All-NBA, 11x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (2001)

7. George Gervin “Iceman”
25.1 PPG/5.2 RPG/2.5 APG, 9x All-NBA, 12x All Star

8. Clyde Drexler “The Glide”
20.4 PPG/6.1 RPG/5.6 APG, 1x Champion, 5x All-NBA, 10x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1990, 1992, 1995)

9. Hal Greer
19.2 PPG/5.0 RPG/4.0 APG, 1x Champion, 7x All-NBA, 10x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1967)

10. Sam Jones
17.7 PPG/4.9 RPG/2.5 APG, 10x Champion, 3x All-NBA, 5x All Star, 11x Finals Appearances (1958-1966, 1968-1969)

11. Ray Allen
18.9 PPG/4.1 RPG/3.4 APG, 2x Champion, 2x All-NBA, 10x All-Star, 4x Finals Appearances (2008, 2010, 2013-2014)

12. Bill Sharman
17.8 PPG/3.9 RPG/3.0 APG, 4x Champion, 7x All-NBA, 8x All Star, 5x Finals Appearances (1957-1961)

13. Tracy McGrady “T-Mac”
19.6 PPG/5.6 RPG/4.4 APG, 5x All-NBA, 7x All Star

14. Joe Dumars
16.1 PPG/2.2 RPG/4.5 APG, 2x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 3x All-NBA, 5x All-Defensive, 6x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1988-1990)

15. Sidney Moncrief
15.6 PPG/4.7 RPG/3.6 APG, 5x All-NBA, 5x All-Defensive, 5x All Star

16. Reggie Miller
18.2 PPG/3 RPG/3 APG, 5x All-Star, 1x Finals Appearance (2000)

17. Vince Carter “Vinsanity”
16.7 PPG/4.3 RPG/3.1 APG, 2x All-NBA, 8x All-Star

18. David Thompson “Skywalker”
22.1 PPG/4.1 RPG/3.3 APG, 2x All-NBA, 5x All Star

19. Mitch Richmond “The Rock”
21.0 PPG/3.9 RPG/3.5 APG, 1x Champion, 3x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (2002)

20. Pete Maravich “Pistol”
24.2 PPG/4.2 RPG/5.4 APG, 4x All-ABA, 5x All Star

21. Freddie Lewis
16.0 PPG/3.7 RPG/4.0 APG, 3x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 4x All-Star, 4x Finals Appearance (1970, 1972, 1973, 1975)

22. Manu Ginobili
13.3 PPG/3.5 RPG/3.8 APG, 2x All-Star, 4x Champion, 5x Finals Appearances (2003, 2005, 2007, 2013-2014)

23. Alvin Robertson
14.0 PPG/5.2 RPG/5.0 APG, 6x All-Defensive, 4x All-Star

24. Warren Jabali
17.1 PPG/6.7 RPG/5.3 APG, 1x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 1x All-ABA, 4x All-Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1969)

25. Walter Davis
18.9 PPG/3.8 RPG/3.0 APG, 2x All-NBA, 6x All-Star

Small Forwards

1. Lebron James “King James”
27.1 PPG/7.4 RPG/7.4 APG, 4x Champion, 4x MVP, 4x Finals MVP, 15x All-NBA, 6x All-Defensive, 16x All Star, 10x Finals Appearances (2007, 2011-2018, 2020)

2. Larry Bird “Larry Legend”
24.3 PPG/10.0 RPG/6.3 APG, 3x Champion, 3x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, 10x All-NBA, 3x All-Defensive, 12x All Star, 5x Finals Appearances (1981, 1984-1987)

3. Julius Erving “Dr J”
24.2 PPG/6.7 RPG/4.2 APG, 3x Champion, 4x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, 12x All-NBA, 17x All Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1972, 1974, 1976, 1980, 1982-1983)

4. Kevin Durant “KD”
27.0 PPG/7.1 RPG/4.1 APG, 2x Champion, 1x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, 9x All-NBA, 10x All Star, 4x Finals Appearances (2012, 2017-2019)

5. John Havlicek “Hondo”
20.8 PPG/6.3 RPG/4.8 APG, 8x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 11x All-NBA, 14x All-Defensive, 13x All Star, 8x Finals Appearances (1963-1966, 1968-1969, 1974, 1976)

6. Scottie Pippen “Pip”
16.1 PPG/6.4 RPG/5.2 APG, 6x Champion, 7x All-NBA, 10x All-Defensive, 7x All Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1991-1993, 1996-1998)

7. Rick Barry “The Miami Greyhound”
24.8 PPG/6.7 RPG/4.9 APG, 2x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 6x All-NBA, 8x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1967, 1969, 1975)

8. Elgin Baylor “Mr Inside”
27.4 PPG/13.5 RPG/4.6 APG, 10x All-NBA, 11x All Star, 8x Finals Appearances (1959, 1962-1963, 1965-1966, 1968-1970)

9. Kawhi Leonard “The Klaw”
18.7 PPG/6.4 RPG/2.7 APG, 2x Champion, 2x Finals MVP, 4x All-NBA, 6x All-Defensive, 4x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (2013, 2014, 2019)

10. Paul Arizin
22.8 PPG/8.6 RPG/2.3 APG, 1x Champion, 4x All-NBA, 10x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1956)

11. Connie Hawkins “The Hawk”
18.7 PPG/8.8 RPG/4.1 APG, 1x Champion, 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 3x All-NBA, 5x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1968)

12. Paul Pierce “The Truth”
19.7 PPG/5.6 RPG/3.5 APG, 1x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 1x All-NBA, 10x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (2008, 2010)

13. Billy Cunningham “The Kangaroo Kid”
21.2 PPG/10.4 RPG/4.3 APG, 1x Champion, 1x MVP, 5x All-NBA, 5x All-Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1967)

14. Dominique Wilkins “The Human Highlight Reel”
24.8 PPG/6.7 RPG/2.5 APG, 3x All-NBA, 9x All Star

15. Adrian Dantley
24.3 PPG/5.7 RPG/3.0 APG, 2x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1988)

16. James Worthy “Big Game James”
17.6 PPG/5.1 RPG/3.0 APG, 3x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 2x All-NBA, 7x All Star, 7x Finals Appearances (1983-1985, 1987-1989, 1991)

17. Alex English
21.5 PPG/5.5 RPG/3.6 APG, 3x All-NBA, 8x All Star

18. Carmelo Anthony “Melo”
23.6 PPG/6.5 RPG/2.9 APG, 2x All-NBA, 10x All Star

19. Roger Brown
17.4 PPG/6.2 RPG/3.8 APG, 3x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 3x All-ABA, 4x All Star, 5x Finals Appearances (1969-1970, 1972-1973, 1975)

20. Bernard King
22.5 PPG/5.8 RPG/3.3 APG, 3x All-NBA, 4x All-Star

21. Bob Dandridge
18.5 PPG/6.8 RPG/3.4 APG, 2x Champion, 1x All-NBA, 4x All-Star,  4x Finals Appearances (1971, 1974, 1978, 1979)

22. Grant Hill
16.7 PPG/6.0 RPG/4.1 APG, 5x All-NBA, 7x All-Star

23. Paul George “PG”
20.0 PPG/6.4 RPG/3.4 APG, 1x All-NBA, 4x All-Defensive, 6x All-Star

24. Cliff Hagan
17.7 PPG/6.6 RPG/3.2 APG, 1x Champion, 2x All-NBA, 6x All-Star, 4x Finals Appearances (1957-1958, 1960-1961)

25. Chet Walker
18.2 PPG/7.1 RPG/2.1 APG, 1x Champion, 7x All-Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1967)

Power Forward

1. Tim Duncan “The Big Fundamental”
19.0 PPG/10.8 RPG/3.0 APG, 5x Champion, 2x MVP, 3x Finals MVP, 13x All-NBA, 15x All-Defensive, 15x All Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1999, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2013-2014)

2. Karl Malone “The Mailman”
25.0 PPG/10.1 RPG/3.6 APG, 2x MVP, 14x All-NBA, 14x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1997-1998)

3. Kevin Garnett “KG”
18.6 PPG/10.3 RPG/3.9 APG, 1x Champion, 1x MVP, 9x All-NBA, 12x All-Defensive, 15x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (2008, 2010)

4. Bob Pettit
26.4 PPG/16.2 RPG/3.0 APG, 1x Champion, 2x MVP, 11x All-NBA, 11x All Star, 4x Finals Appearances (1957-1958, 1960-1961)

5. Dirk Nowitzki “The German Juggernaut”
20.7 PPG/7.5 RPG/2.4 APG, 1x Champion, 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 12x All-NBA, 12x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (2006, 2011)

6. Charles Barkley “Sir Charles”
22.1 PPG/11.7 RPG/3.9 APG, 1x MVP, 11x All-NBA, 11x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1993)

7. Dolph Schayes
18.2 PPG/12.1 RPG/3.1 APG, 1x Champion, 12x All-NBA, 12x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1950, 1954, 1955)

8. Elvin Hayes “The Big E”
21.0 PPG/12.5 RPG/1.8 APG, 1x Champion, 6x All-NBA, 12x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1975, 1978-1979)

9. Dan Issel “The Horse”
22.6 PPG/9.1 RPG/2.4 APG, 1x Champion, 5x All-NBA, 7x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1971, 1973, 1975)

10. George McGinnis
20.2 PPG/11.0 RPG/3.7 APG, 2x Champion, 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 5x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1972-1973, 1975)

11. Anthony Davis “The Brow”
24.0 PPG/10.4 RPG/2.2 APG, 1x Champion, 4x All-NBA, 4x All-Defensive, 7x All-Star, 1x Finals Appearance (2020)

12. Kevin McHale “The Black Hole”
17.9 PPG/7.3 RPG/1.7 APG, 3x Champion, 1x All-NBA, 6x All-Defensive, 7x All Star, 5x Finals Appearances (1981, 1984-1987)

13. Giannis Antetokoumpo “The Greek Freak”
20.0 PPG/8.9 RPG/4.3 APG, 2x MVP, 4x All-Star, 4x All-NBA, 3x All-Defensive

14. Dennis Rodman “The Worm”
7.3 PPG/13.1 RPG/1.8 APG, 5x Champion, 8x All-Defensive, 2x All-Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1988-1990, 1996-1998)

15. Spencer Haywood
20.3 PPG/10.3 RPG/1.8 APG, 1x Champion, 1x MVP, 5x All-NBA, 5x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1980)

16. Pau Gasol
17.0 PPG/9.2 RPG/3.2 APG, 2x Champion, 2x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (2008-2010)

17. Tom Heinsohn
18.6 PPG/8.8 RPG/2.0 APG, 8x Champion, 4x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 9x Finals Appearances (1957-1965)

18. Dave DeBusschere
16.1 PPG/11.0 RPG/2.9 APG, 2x Champion, 1x All-NBA, 10x All-Defensive, 8x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1970, 1972-1973)

19. Bobby Jones
12.1 PPG/6.1 RPG/2.7 APG, 1x Champion, 11x All-Defensive, 5x All-Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1980, 1982, 1983)

20. Jerry Lucas “The Computer”
17.0 PPG/15.6 RPG/3.3 APG, 1x Champion, 5x All-NBA, 7x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1972-1973)

21. Chris Webber “C-Webb”
20.7 PPG/9.8 RPG/4.2 APG, 4x All-NBA, 5x All Star

22. Amare Stoudemire
18.9 PPG/7.8 RPG/1.2 APG, 5x All-NBA, 6x All Star

23. Chris Bosh
19.2 PPG/8.6 RPG/2.0 APG, 11x All-Star, 1x All-NBA, 4x Finals Appearances (2011-2014)

24. Blake Griffin
21.7 PPG/8.8 RPG/4.4 APG, 3x All-NBA, 6x All-Star

25. Bailey Howell
18.7 PPG/9.9 RPG/2.0 APG, 2x Champion, 1x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1968, 1969)

Center

1. Bill Russell
15.1 PPG/22.5 RPG/4.3 APG, 11x Champion, 5x MVP, 11x All-NBA, 13x All-Defensive, 12x All Star, 12x Finals Appearances (1957-1966, 1968-1969)

2. Wilt Chamberlain “The Big Dipper”
30.1 PPG/22.9 RPG/4.4 APG, 2x Champion, 4x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 12x All-Defensive, 10x All-NBA, 13x All Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1964, 1967, 1969-1970, 1972-1973)

3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar “Cap”
24.6 PPG/11.2 RPG/3.6 APG, 6x Champion, 6x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, 15x All-NBA, 11x All-Defensive, 19x All Star, 10x Finals Appearances (1971, 1974, 1980, 1982-1985, 1987-1989)

4. Shaquille O’Neal  “Diesel”
23.7 PPG/10.9 RPG/2.5 APG, 4x Champion, 1x MVP, 3x Finals MVP, 14x All-NBA, 3x All-Defensive, 15x All Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1995, 2000-2002, 2004, 2006)

5. Hakeem Olajuwon “The Dream”
21.8 PPG/11.1 RPG/2.5 APG, 2x Champion, 1x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, 12x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive, 12x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1986, 1994-1995)

6. Moses Malone “Chairman of the Boards”
20.6 PPG/12.2 RPG/1.4 APG, 1x Champion, 3x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 8x All-NBA, 2x All-Defensive, 12x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1981, 1983)

7. Artis Gilmore “The A-Train”
18.8 PPG/12.3 RPG/2.3 APG, 1x Champion, 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 5x All-ABA, 11x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1971, 1973, 1975)

8. David Robinson “The Admiral”
21.1 PPG/10.6 RPG/2.5 APG, 2x Champion, 1x MVP, 10x All-NBA, 8x All-Defensive, 10x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1999, 2003)

9. George Mikan “Mr Basketball”
22.6 PPG/13.4 RPG/2.8 APG, 7x Champion, 1x MVP, 6x All-NBA, 4x All Star, 4x Finals Appearances (1950, 1952-1954)

10. Dwight Howard “Superman”
16.7 PPG/12.3 RPG/1.4 APG, 1x Champion, 6x All-NBA, 5x All-Defensive, 8x All Star, 2x Finals Appearance (2009, 2020)

11. Willis Reed “The Captain”
18.7 PPG/12.9 RPG/1.8 APG, 2x Champion, 1x MVP, 2x Finals MVP, 5x All-NBA, 4x All-Defensive, 7x All Star, 3x Finals Appearances (1970, 1972-1973)

12. Mel Daniels “Big Mel”
18.4 PPG/14.9 RPG/1.8 APG, 3x Champion, 2x MVP, 5x All-ABA, 7x All Star, 5x Finals Appearances (1969-1970, 1972-1973, 1975)

13. Dave Cowens
17.6 PPG/13.6 RPG/3.8 APG, 2x Champion, 1x MVP, 3x All-NBA, 3x All-Defensive, 8x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1974, 1976)

14. Patrick Ewing
21.0 PPG/9.8 RPG/2.0 APG, 7x All-NBA, 3x All-Defensive, 11x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1994)

15. Bob McAdoo
22.1 PPG/9.4 RPG/2.3 APG, 2x Champion, 1x MVP, 2x All-NBA, 5x All Star, 4x Finals Appearances (1982-1985)

16. Wes Unseld
10.8 PPG/14.0 RPG/3.9 APG, 1x Champion, 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 1x All-NBA, 5x All Star, 4x Finals Appearances (1971, 1975, 1978-1979)

17. Dikembe Mutombo
9.8 PPG/10.3 RPG/1 APG, 6x All-Defensive, 8x All-Star, 1x All-NBA, 1x Finals Appearance (2001)

18. Robert Parish “The Chief”
14.5 PPG/9.1 RPG/1.4 APG, 4x Champion, 2x All-NBA, 9x All Star, 6x Finals Appearances (1981, 1984-1987, 1997)

19. Neil Johnston
19.4 PPG/11.3 RPG/2.5 APG, 1x Champion, 5x All-NBA, 6x All Star, 1x Finals Appearance (1956)

20. Bill Walton “Big Red”
13.3 PPG/10.5 RPG/3.4 APG, 2x Champion, 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP, 2x All-NBA, 2x All-Defensive, 2x All Star, 2x Finals Appearances (1977, 1986)

21. Ben Wallace “Big Ben”
5.7 PPG/9.3 RPG/1.6 APG, 4x All-Star, 3x All-NBA, 6x All-Defensive, 1x Champion, 2x Finals Appearances (2004-2005)

22. Zelmo Beaty
16 PPG/10.5 RPG/1.5 APG, 1x Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 5x All-Star, 2x All-ABA, 1x Finals Appearance (1971)

23. Walt Bellamy
20.1 PPG/13.7 RPG/2.4 APG, 4x All-Star

24. Bob Lanier
20.1 PPG/10.1 RPG/3.1 APG, 8x All Star

25. Jack Sikma
15.6 PPG/9.8 RPG/3.2 APG, 1x Champion, 7x All-Star, 2x All-NBA, 1x All-Defensive, 2x Finals Appearance (1978, 1979)

Greatest white players in NBA history
1. Larry Bird
2. Jerry West
3. John Havlicek
4. Bob Pettit
5. Bob Cousy
6. John Stockton
7. Rick Barry
8. Dirk Nowitzki
9. Steve Nash
10. Bill Walton
11. George Mikan
12. Dolph Schayes
13. Paul Arizin
14. Dave Cowens
15. Dan Issel
16. Kevin McHale
17. Billy Cunningham
18. Jerry Lucas
19. Pete Maravich
20. Neil Johnston

All-NBA teams for 2K18 simulation
1st team – Lakers uniform range: 92-99

2K20:

Starting: Magic Johnston, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Karl Malone, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Backup: Jerry West, Tracy McGrady, Elgin Baylor, Anthony Davis, Shaq
Reserve: Pau Gasol, James Worthy, George Mikan

Starting: Magic Johnson, Kobe Bryant, Lebron James, Elvin Hayes, Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Backup: Walt Frazier, Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, Dan Issel, Shaq
Reserve: James Worthy, Tracy McGrady, George Mikan

2nd team – Celtics uniform range 88-98

2K20:

Starting: Bob Cousy, Ray Allen, Larry Bird, Kevin Garnett, Bill Russell
Backup: Dennis Johnson, Sam Jones, John Havlicek, Kevin McHale, Dave Cowens
Reserve: Tom Heinsohn, Paul Pierce, Robert Parish

Starting: Bob Cousy, James Harden, Larry Bird, Kevin Garnett, Bill Russell
Backup: Dennis Johnson, Sam Jones, John Havlicek, Kevin McHale, Dave Cowens
Reserve: Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Tom Heinsohn

3rd team – 76ers uniform range 88-98

2K20:

Starting: Oscar Robertson, Allen Iverson, Julius Erving, George McGinnis, Moses Malone
Backup: Russell Westbrook, Clyde Drexler, Billy Cunningham, Jerry Lucas, Dwight Howard
Reserve: Bobby Jones, Horace Grant, Dikembe Mutombo

Starting: John Stockton, Allen Iverson, Julius Erving, Bob Pettit, Wilt Chamberlain
Backup: Oscar Robertson, Clyde Drexler , Billy Cunningham, Spencer Haywood, Moses Malone
Reserve: Russell Westbrook, Dominique Wilkins, Bob McAdoo

4th team – Bulls uniform range 91-99

2K20:

Starting: Jason Kidd, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dan Issel, Hakeem Olajuwon
Backup: Walt Frazier, Dwayne Wade, Connie Hawkins, Spencer Haywood, Artis Gilmore
Reserve: Tiny Archibald, Dominique Wilkins, Wes Unseld

Starting: Jason Kidd, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing
Backup: Tiny Archibald, David Thompson, George McGinnis, Chris Webber, Wes Unseld
Reserve: Vince Carter, Alex English, Artis Gilmore

5th team – Warriors uniform range 91-98

2K20:

Starting: Steph Curry, James Harden, Kevin Durant, Bob Pettit, Wilt Chamberlain
Backup: John Stockton, Sidney Moncrief, Rick Barry, Elvin Hayes, Patrick Ewing
Reserve: Chris Webber, Jack Sikma, Nate Thurmond

Starting: Steph Curry, Dwayne Wade, Kevin Durant, Dirk Nowitzki, Hakeem Olajuwon
Backup: Chris Paul, Mitch Richmond, Rick Barry, Jerry Lucas, Nate Thurmond
Reserve: Tim Hardaway, Connie Hawkins, Bob Lanier

6th team – Spurs uniform 89-98

2K20:

Starting: Chris Paul, Michael Cooper, George Gervin, Tim Duncan, David Robinson
Backup: Steve Nash, Manu Ginobili, Kawhi Leonard, Dirk Nowitzki, Willis Reed
Reserve: Tony Parker, Chris Bosh, Carmelo Anthony

Starting: Steve Nash, George Gervin, Kawhi Leonard, Tim Duncan, David Robinson
Backup: Gary Payton, Sidney Moncrief, Carmelo Anthony, Anthony Davis, Bill Walton
Reserve: Tony Parker, Blake Griffin, Alonzo Mourning

7th team – Pistons uniform

2K20:

Starting: Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Adrian Dantley, Dave Debusschere, Bob Lanier
Backup: Gary Payton, Mitch Richmond, Giannis, Dennis Rodman, Bill Walton
Reserve: Chauncey Billups, Ben Wallace, Alex English

Starting: Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Grant Hill, Dave Debusschere, Willis Reed
Backup: Dave Bing, Pete Maravich, Adrian Dantley, Amare Stoudemire, Dwight Howard
Reserve: Bernard King, Chauncey Billups, Pau Gasol

Note: All players on these teams are top 125 players all time. Charles Barkley, Hal Greer, Dolph Schayes, Paul Arizin, Neil Johnston, Bill Sharman, Mel Daniels, Roger Brown, Reggie Miller are all missing from the game due to licensing issue else they might have appeared on here.

All-NBA team for each decade
1950s:
PG: Bob Cousy/Slater Martin
SG: Bill Sharman/Richie Guerin
SF: Paul Arizin/George Yardley
PF: Bob Pettit /Dolph Schayes
C: George Mikan/Neil Johnston

1960s:
PG: Oscar Robertson/Dave Bing
SG: Jerry West/Hal Greer
SF: Elgin Baylor/Billy Cunningham
PF: Willis Reed/Jerry Lucas
C: Wilt Chamberlain/Bill Russell

1970s:
PG: Walt Frazier/Tiny Archibald
SG: John Havlicek/Pete Maravich
SF: Rick Barry/Bob McAdoo
PF: Elvin Hayes/Dave Cowens
C: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar/Bill Walton

1980s:
PG: Magic Johnson/Isiah Thomas
SG: George Gervin/Sidney Moncrief
SF: Larry Bird/Dominique Wilkins
PF: Julius Erving/Kevin McHale
C: Moses Malone/Patrick Ewing

1990s:
PG: John Stockton/Gary Payton
SG: Michael Jordan/Mitch Richmond
SF: Scottie Pippen/Clyde Drexler
PF: Karl Malone/Charles Barkley
C: Hakeem Olajuwon/David Robinson

2000s:
PG: Jason Kidd/Steve Nash
SG: Kobe Bryant/Allen Iverson
SF: Dwayne Wade/Paul Pierce
PF: Kevin Garnett/Dirk Nowitzki
C: Shaquille O’Neal/Tim Duncan

2010s:
PG: Chris Paul/Stephen Curry
SG: James Harden/Russell Westbrook
SF: Kevin Durant/Kawhi Leonard
PF: Lebron James/Giannis Antetokounmpo
C: Anthony Davis/Dwight Howard

2K teams
1960s team (Celtics uni): Oscar,Cousy, West, Greer/Sam Jones, Baylor, Cunningham, Pettit,Lucas, Wilt, Russell, Heinsohn, Reed
1970s team (Knicks uni): Frazier, Archibald, Maravich, Thompson, Barry, Hondo, Hayes, Issel, Cowens, Walton, Thurmond, Gervin
1980s team (Lakers uni): Magic, Isiah, Moncrief, Dumars, Bird, Dr J, McHale, Barkley, Moses, Kareem, Dennis Johnson, Wilkins
1990s team (Bulls uni): Stockton, Payton, Jordan, Drexler, Pippen, Hill, Malone, Rodman, Hakeem, Robinson, Ewing, Richmond
2000s team (Spurs uni): Kidd, Nash, Kobe, Iverson, Pierce, Melo, Duncan, Garnett, Shaq, Dwight, Tmac, Webber
2010s team (Warriors uni): Chris Paul, Steph Curry, Wade, Harden, Lebron, Durant, Dirk, Davis, Embiid, Cousins, Westbrook, Giannis

2K Divison teams
All time Atlantic Team:
Starting: Bob Cousy, John Havlicek, Larry Bird, Charles Barkley (76ers) / Kevin McHale (Celtics), Bill Russell (Celtics)
Backup: Jason Kidd (Nets), Allen Iverson (76ers), Julius Erving (76ers), Jerry Lucas (Royals, Knicks), Wilt Chamberlain (76ers)
Reserve: Walt Frazier (Knicks), Willis Reed (Knicks),  Sam Jones (Celtics)

All time Central Team:
Starting: Oscar Robertson (Bucks), Michael Jordan (Bulls), Scottie Pippen (Bulls), Dennis Rodman (Pistons), Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (Bucks)
Backup: Isiah Thomas (Pistons), Joe Dumars (Pistons), Bob Dandridge (Bucks), Dave Debusschere (Pistons), Artis Gilmore (Bulls)
Reserve: George McGinnis (Pacers), Bob Lanier (Pistons) / Mel Daniels (Pacers), Sidney Moncrief (Bucks)

All time Southeast Team:
Starting:  Penny Hardaway (Magic), Dwayne Wade (Heat), Lebron James (Heat), Bob Pettit (Hawks), Dwight Howard (Magic)
Backup: Tim Hardaway (Heat), Tracy McGrady (Magic), Dominique Wilkins (Hawks), Elvin Hayes (Bullets), Wes Unseld (Bullets)
Reserve: Earl Monroe (Wizards), Alonzo Mourning (Heat), Chris Bosh (Heat)

All time Northwest Team:
Starting: John Stockton (Jazz), Clyde Drexler (Blazers), Kevin Durant (Thunder), Karl Malone (Jazz), Bill Walton (Blazers)
Backup: Russell Westbrook (Thunder), Ray Allen (Sonics), Carmelo Anthony (Nuggets), Kevin Garnett (Wolves), Jack Sikma (Sonics)
Reserve: Gary Payton (Sonics), Dan Issel (Nuggets), Spencer Haywood (Sonics)

All time Pacific Team:
Starting: Magic Johnson (Lakers), Kobe Bryant (Lakers), Rick Barry (Warriors), Chris Webber (Kings), Shaq (Center)
Backup: Jerry West (Lakers), Michael Cooper (Lakers), Elgin Baylor (Lakers), Amar’e Stoudemire (Suns), Bob McAdoo (Clippers)
Reserve: Steph Curry (Warriors), Steve Nash (Suns), Connie Hawkins (Suns)

All time Southwest Team:
Starting: Chris Paul (Pelicans), James Harden (Rockets), George Gervin (Spurs), Tim Duncan (Spurs), Hakeem Olajuwon (Rockets)
Backup: Tony Parker (Spurs), Manu Ginobili (Spurs), Kawhi Leonard (Spurs), Dirk Nowitzki (Mavs), Moses Malone (Rockets)
Reserve: David Robinson (Spurs), Anthony Davis (Pelicans), Pau Gasol (Grizzlies)

Greatest players for each NBA team
Boston Celtics – Bill Russell – 11 rings, 12 Finals, 5 MVPs with the Celtics
Brooklyn Nets – Julius Erving – 2 rings, 3 Finals, 3 MVPs with the Nets
New York Knicks – Willis Reed – 2 rings, 3 Finals, 1 MVP, 2 Finals MVPs with the Knicks
Philadelphia 76ers – Wilt Chamberlain – 1 ring, 1 Finals, 3 MVPs with the 76ers
Toronto Raptors – Kawhi Leonard – 1 ring, 1 Finals, 1 Finals MVP with the Raptors
Dallas Mavericks – Dirk Nowitzki – 1 ring, 2 Finals, 1 MVP, 1 Finals MVP with the Mavs
Houston Rockets – Hakeem Olajuwon – 2 rings, 3 Finals, 1 MVP, 2 Finals MVPs with the Rockets
Memphis Grizzlies – Marc Gasol
New Orleans Pelicans – Anthony Davis
San Antonio Spurs – Tim Duncan – 5 rings, 6 Finals, 2 MVPs, 3 Finals MVPs with the Spurs
Chicago Bulls – Michael Jordan – 6 rings, 6 Finals, 5 MVPs, 6 Finals MVPs with the Bulls
Cleveland Cavaliers – Lebron James – 1 ring, 5 Finals, 2 MVPs, 1 Finals MVP with the Cavs
Detroit Pistons – Isiah Thomas – 2 rings, 3 Finals, 1 Finals MVP with the Pistons
Indiana Pacers – Mel Daniels – 3 rings, 4 Finals, 2 MVPs with the Pacers
Milwaukee Bucks – Kareem Abdul-Jabbar – 1 ring, 2 Finals, 3 MVPs, 1 Finals MVP with the Bucks
Denver Nuggets – Alex English
Minnesota Timberwolves – Kevin Garnett – 1 MVP with the Timberwolves
Oklahoma City Thunder – Kevin Durant – 1 Finals, 1 MVP with the OKC
Portland Trail Blazers – Bill Walton – 1 Finals, 1 MVP, 1 Finals MVP with the Trailblazers
Utah Jazz – Karl Malone – 2 Finals, 2 MVPs with the Jazz
Atlanta Hawks – Bob Pettit (St Louis Hawks) – 1 ring, 4 Finals, 2 MVPs with the Hawks
Charlotte Hornets – Kemba Walker
Miami Heat – Dwyane Wade – 3 rings, 5 Finals, 1 Finals MVP with the Heat
Orlando Magic – Dwight Howard – 1 Finals with the Magic
Washington Wizards – Wes Unseld (Baltimore Bullets) – 1 ring, 4 Finals, 1 MVP, 1 Finals MVP with the Bullets
Golden State Warriors – Stephen Curry – 3 rings, 5 Finals, 2 MVPs with the Warriors
Los Angeles Clippers – Chris Paul
Los Angeles Lakers – Magic Johnson – 5 rings, 9 Finals, 3 MVPs, 3 Finals MVPs with the Lakers
Phoenix Suns – Steve Nash – 2 MVPs with the Suns
Sacramento Kings – Oscar Robertson (Cincinnati Royals)- 1 MVP with the Royals

Top 10 what if? careers in NBA history
1. Bill Walton (ankle injuries limited him, but when healthy was MVP, Finals MVP and champion)
2. Arvydas Sabonis (came into NBA post prime but was supposedly one of the most skilled big men ever like a 7’3 foot Hakeem)
3. Maurice Stokes (averaged 16 points and 17 rebounds a game before hitting his head on the floor and becoming a quadriplegic for the rest of his life 🙁 )
4. David Thompson (was pre-Michael Jordan basically before he got into coke problems in the late 70s; scored 73 points in a game before)
5. Grant Hill (was pre-Lebron James before ankle injuries)
6. Drazen Petrovic (a rising all star shooting guard before he died in a car accident only 28 years old)
7. Bernard King (averaged 33 points a game and was on his way becoming a top forward in the 80s before he tore his ACL and wasnt the same again)
8. Penny Hardaway (a Magic-like player who was one of the top point guards before injuries got to him)
9. Derrick Rose (former MVP who was going to be one of the top point guards of his generation but tore his ACL and wasnt the same again)
10.Tracy McGrady (could have been better than Kobe and Iverson if he didn’t have so many back injuries)
Honorable mentions: Yao Ming, Len Bias (never played in NBA but died of cocaine overdose before he could have), Pete Maravich (at his peak before suffering knee injuries), Ralph Sampson

Top 10 #1 draft picks all time

1. Kareem Abdul Jabbar (1969)
2. Lebron James (2003)
3. Magic Johnson (1979)
4. Tim Duncan (1997)
5. Shaquille O’Neal (1992)
6. Hakeem Olajuwon (1984)
7. David Robinson (1987)
8. Allen Iverson (1996)
9. Elgin Baylor (1958)
10. Dwight Howard (2004)

Top 20 greatest college players of all time

  1. Kareem Abdul Jabbar (26.4 PPG, 15.5 RPG)
  2. Bill Walton (20.3 PPG, 15.7 RPG)
  3. Bill Russell (20.7 PPG, 20.3 RPG)
  4. Pete Maravich (44.2 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 5.1 APG)
  5. Oscar Robertson (33.8 PPG, 15.2 RPG)
  6. David Thompson (26.8 PPG, 8.1 RPG)
  7. Jerry Lucas (24.3 PPG, 17.2 RPG)
  8. Tom Gola (20.9 PPG, 18.7 RPG)
  9. Elvin Hayes (31 PPG, 17.2 RPG)
  10. Larry Bird (30.3 PPG, 13.3 RPG, 4.6 APG)
  11. Christian Laettner (16.6 PPG, 7.8 RPG, 1.8 APG)
  12. Ralph Sampson (16.9 PPG, 11.4 RPG)
  13. Wilt Chamberlain (29.9 PPG, 18.3 RPG)
  14. Shaq (21.6 PPG, 13.5 RPG, 1.7 APG)
  15. Tim Duncan (16.5 PPG, 12.3 RPG, 2.3 APG)
  16. Magic Johnson (17.1 PPG, 7.6 RPG, 7.9 APG)
  17. Jerry West (24.8 PPG, 13.3 RPG, 2.8 APG)
  18. Artis Gilmore (24.3 PPG, 22.7 RPG)
  19. Tyler Hansborough (20.2 PPG, 8.6 RPG, 1.1 APG)
  20. Dan Issel (25.8 PPG, 12.9 RPG, 1.2 APG)

Top 20 greatest offensive players of all time

1. Michael Jordan (10x scoring titles, 12x seasons 25pts+)
2. Wilt Chamberlain (7x scoring titles, 10x seasons 25pts+)
3. Kobe Bryant (2x scoring titles, 12x seasons 25pts+)
4. Jerry West (1x scoring title, 11x seasons 25pts+)
5. Allen Iverson (4x scoring titles, 11x seasons 25pts+)
6. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (2x scoring titles, 10x seasons 25pts+)
7. Karl Malone (12x seasons 25pts+)
8. Kevin Durant (4x scoring titles, 9x seasons 25pts+)
9. Dominique Wilkins (1x scoring title, 10x seasons 25pts+)
10. George Gervin (4x scoring titles, 8x seasons 25pts+)
11. Lebron James (1x scoring title, 13x seasons 25pts+)
12. Shaquille O’Neal (2x scoring titles, 10x seasons 25pts+)
13. Elgin Baylor (8x seasons 25pts+)
14. Oscar Robertson (9x seasons 25pts+)
15. Rick Barry (2x scoring titles, 8x seasons 25pts+)
16. Bob Pettit (2x scoring titles, 7x seasons 25pts+)
17. Bob McAdoo (3x scoring titles, 7x seasons 25pts+)
18. Adrian Dantley (2x scoring titles, 8x seasons 25pts+)
19 Carmelo Anthony (1x scoring title, 9x seasons 25pts+)
20. Alex English (1x scoring title, 8x seasons 25pts+)

Top 20 greatest defensive players of all time
1. Bill Russell (4x rebounding leader, 1x All-D 1st team)
2. Wilt Chamberlain (11x rebounding leader, 2x All-D 1st team)
3. Hakeem Olajuwon (2x rebounding leader, 3x blocks leader, 2x DPOY, 5x All-D 1st team)
4. Dikembe Mutombo (2x rebounding leader, 3x blocks leader, 4x DPOY, 3x All-D 1st team)
5. Nate Thurmond (2x All-D 1st team)
6. Ben Wallace (2x rebounding leader, 1x blocks leader, 4x DPOY, 5x All-D 1st team)
7. David Robinson (1x rebounding leader, 1x blocks leader, 1x DPOY, 4x All-D 1st team)
8. Kevin Garnett (4x rebounding leader, 1x DPOY, 9x All-D 1st team)
9. Dennis Rodman (7x rebounding leader, 2x DPOY, 7x All-D 1st team)
10. Scottie Pippen (1x steals leader, 8x All-D 1st team)
11. Michael Jordan (3x steals leader, 1x DPOY, 9x All-D 1st team)
12. Dwight Howard (5x rebounding leader, 2x blocks leader, 3x DPOY, 4x All-D 1st team)
13. Gary Payton (1x steals leader, 1x DPOY, 9x All-D 1st team)
14. Sidney Moncrief (2x DPOY, 4x All-D 1st team)
15. Tim Duncan (8x All-D 1st team)
16. Walt Frazier (7x All-D 1st team)
17. Kawhi Leonard (1x steals leader, 2x DPOY, 3x All-D 1st team)
18. Bobby Jones (8x All-D 1st team)
19. Mark Eaton (4x blocks leader, 2x DPOY, 3x All-D 1st team)
20. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1x rebounding leader, 4x blocks leader, 5x All-D 1st team)

Top 20 Greatest NBA teams of all time
1. 1996 Chicago Bulls (72-10, 15-3, HOFers: Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman)
2. 2017 Golden State Warriors (67-15, 16-1, HOFers: Stephen Curry, Kevin Durant, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green)
3. 1997 Chicago Bulls (69-13, 15-4, HOFers: Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman)
4. 1967 Philadelphia 76ers (68-13, 15-4, HOFers: Wilt Chamberlain, Billy Cunningham, Hal Greer, Chet Walker)
5. 1972 LA Lakers (69-13, 12-3, HOFers: Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain, Gail Goodrich, Elgin Baylor)
6. 1986 Boston Celtics (67-15, 15-3, HOFers: Larry Bird, Robert Parish, Kevin McHale, Dennis Johnson, Bill Walton)
7. 1971 Milwaukee Bucks (66-16, 12-2, HOFers: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Oscar Robertson) 60
8. 1987 LA Lakers (65-17, 15-3, HOFers: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, James Worthy) 60
9. 1992 Chicago Bulls (67-15, 15-7, HOFers: Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen)60
10. 1983 Philadelphia 76ers (65-17, 12-1, HOFers: Julius Erving, Moses Malone) 59
11. 2013 Miami Heat (66-16, 16-7, HOFers: Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Ray Allen) 59
12. 2009 LA Lakers (65-15, 16-7, HOFers: Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol)59
13. 1989 Detroit Pistons (63-19, 15-2, HOFers: Adrian Dantley, Joe Dumars, Isiah Thomas, Dennis Rodman)57
14. 2008 Boston Celtics (66-16, 16-10, HOFers: Rajon Rondo, Kevin Garnett, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce) 56
15. 1985 LA Lakers (62-20, 15-4, HOFers: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Bob McAdoo, Jamaal Wilkes, James Worthy) 53
16. 1999 San Antonio Spurs (37-13, 15-2, HOFers: Tim Duncan, David Robinson) 53
17. 1965 Boston Celtics (62-18, 8-4, HOFers: John Havlicek, Tom Heinsohn, KC Jones, Sam Jones, Satch Sanders, Bill Russell)
18. 2001 LA Lakers (56-26, 15-1, HOFers: Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O’Neal)
19. 1970 New York Knicks (60-22, 12-7, HOFers: Bill Bradley, Dave Debusschere, Walt Frazier, Willis Reed)
20. 1961 Boston Celtics (57-22, 8-2, HOFers: Bob Cousy, Tom Heinsohn, KC Jones, Sam Jones, Frank Ramsey, Bill Russell, Satch Sanders, Bill Sharman)

Here’s my take on the 100 greatest players in NBA/ABA history as of 2020

  1. Michael Jordan “Air Jordan” – 6x Champion, 5x MVP – 30.1 PPG/6.2 RPG/5.3 APG
  2. Wilt Chamberlain “The Big Dipper” – 4x MVP, 11x Rebounding leader – 30.1 PPG/22.9 RPG/4.4 APG
  3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar “Cap” – 6x Champion, 6x MVP – 24.6 PPG/11.2 RPG/3.6 APG
  4. Bill Russell “Russell” – 11x Champion, 5x MVP – 15.1 PPG/22.5 RPG/4.3 APG
  5. Lebron James “King James” – 4x MVP, 3x Finals MVP – 27.1 PPG/7.4 RPG/7.4 APG
  6. Magic Johnson – 5x Champion, 3x MVP – 19.5 PPG/7.2 RPG/11.2 APG
  7. Tim Duncan “The Big Fundamental” – 5x Champion, 2x MVP – 19.0 PPG/10.8 RPG/3.0 APG
  8. Larry Bird “Larry Legend” – 3x Champion, 3x MVP – 24.3 PPG/10.0 RPG/6.3 APG
  9. Kobe Bryant “The Black Mamba” – 5x Champion, 1x MVP – 25.0 PPG/5.2 RPG/4.7 APG
  10. Shaquille O’Neal “Diesel” – 4x Champion, 3x Finals MVP – 23.7 PPG/10.9 RPG/2.5 APG
  11. Hakeem Olajuwon “The Dream” – 2x Champion, 2x Finals MVP – 21.8 PPG/11.1 RPG/2.5 APG
  12. Julius Erving “Dr. J” – 3x Champion, 4x MVP – 24.2 PPG/6.7 RPG/4.2 APG
  13. Jerry West “Mr. Clutch” – 1x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 27.0 PPG/5.8 RPG/6.7 APG
  14. Oscar Robertson “The Big O” – 1x Champion, 1x MVP – 25.7 PPG/7.5 RPG/9.5 APG
  15. Karl Malone “The Mailman” – 2x MVP, 13x All-NBA – 25.0 PPG/10.1 RPG/3.6 APG
  16. Moses Malone “Chairman of the Boards” – 1x Champion, 3x MVP – 20.6 PPG/12.2 RPG/1.4 APG
  17. John Havlicek “Hondo” – 8x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 20.8 PPG/6.3 RPG/4.8 APG
  18. Kevin Garnett “The Big Ticket” – 1x MVP, 12x All-Defensive -18.6 PPG/10.3 RPG/3.9 APG
  19. Bob Pettit – 1x Champion, 2x MVP – 26.4 PPG/16.2 RPG/3.0 APG
  20. Kevin Durant “Durantula” – 1x MVP, 2x Finals MVP – 27.4 PPG/6.9 RPG/3.5 APG
  21. David Robinson “The Admiral” – 2x Champion, 1x MVP – 21.1 PPG/10.6 RPG/2.5 APG
  22. Dirk Nowitzki “The German Juggernaut” – 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP – 20.7 PPG/7.5 RPG/2.4 APG
  23. Charles Barkley “Round Mound of Rebound” – 1x MVP, 10x All-NBA – 22.1 PPG/11.7 RPG/3.9 APG
  24. Elgin Baylor “Mr. Inside” – 10x All-NBA, 11x All-Star – 27.4 PPG/13.5 RPG/4.6 APG
  25. Rick Barry “The Miami Greyhound” – 1x Finals MVP, 10x All-NBA/ABA – 24.8 PPG/6.7 RPG/4.9 APG
  26. Scottie Pippen “Pip” – 6x Champion, 10x All-Defensive – 16.1 PPG/6.4 RPG/5.2 APG
  27. Chris Paul “CP3” – 8x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive – 18.7 PPG/4.4 RPG/9.5 APG
  28. John Stockton – 8x All-NBA, 9x Assist leader – 13.1 PPG/2.7 RPG/10.5 APG
  29. Bob Cousy “Houdini of the Hardwood” – 6x Champion, 1x MVP – 18.4 PPG/5.2 RPG/7.5 APG
  30. Stephen Curry “Chef Curry” – 3x Champion, 2x MVP – 23.5 PPG/4.5 RPG/6.6 APG
  31. Jason Kidd “J-Kidd” – 6x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive – 12.6 PPG/6.3 RPG/8.7 APG
  32. Walt Frazier “Clyde” – 2x Champion, 9x All-Defensive – 18.9 PPG/5.9 RPG/6.1 APG
  33. Dwayne Wade “Flash” – 3x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 22.0 PPG/4.7 RPG/5.4 APG
  34. Isiah Thomas “Zeke” – 2x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 19.2 PPG/3.6 RPG/9.3 APG
  35. George Mikan “Mr Basketball” – 5x Champion, 3x Scoring leader – 23.1 PPG/13.4 RPG/2.8 APG
  36. Elvin Hayes “The Big E” – 1x Champion, 6x All-NBA – 21.0 PPG/12.5 RPG/1.8 APG
  37. Artis Gilmore “A-Train” – 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP – 18.8 PPG/12.3 RPG/2.3 APG
  38. James Harden “The Beard” – 1x MVP, 7x All-NBA – 25.1 PPG/5.3 RPG/6.3 APG
  39. Allen Iverson “The Answer” – 1x MVP, 4x Scoring leader – 26.7 PPG/3.7 RPG/6.2 APG
  40. Gary Payton “The Glove” – 7x All-NBA, 9x All-Defensive – 16.3 PPG/3.9 RPG/6.7 APG
  41. George Gervin “The Iceman” – 9x All-NBA/ABA, 4x Scoring leader – 25.1 PPG/5.2 RPG/2.5 APG
  42. Steve Nash – 2x MVP, 5x Assist leader – 14.3 PPG/3.0 RPG/8.5 APG
  43. Kawhi Leonard “The Claw” – 2x Champion, 2x Finals MVP – 18.6 PPG/6.4 RPG/2.7 APG
  44. Russell Westbrook “Beastbrook” – 1x MVP, 7x All-NBA – 23.2 PPG/7.1 RPG/8.3 APG
  45. Patrick Ewing – 7x All-NBA, 11x All-Star – 21.0 PPG/9.8 RPG/2.0 APG
  46. Dwight Howard “Superman” – 6x All-NBA, 5x Rebounding leader – 16.8 PPG/12.3 RPG/1.4 APG
  47. Dolph Schayes – 1x Champion, 12x All-NBA – 18.2 PPG/12.1 RPG/3.1 APG
  48. Willis Reed “Captain” – 1x MVP, 2x Finals MVP – 18.7 PPG/12.9 RPG/1.8 APG
  49. Mel Daniels “Big Mel” – 3x Champion, 2x MVP – 18.4 PPG/14.9 RPG/1.8 APG
  50. Dave Cowens – 2x Champion, 1x MVP – 17.6 PPG/13.6 RPG/3.8 APG
  51. Kevin McHale “The Black Hole” – 3x Champion, 6x All-Defensive – 17.9 PPG/7.3 RPG/1.7 APG
  52. Anthony Davis “The Brow” – 4x All-NBA, 4x All-Defensive – 24.0 PPG/10.4 RPG/2.2 APG
  53. Bob McAdoo – 1x MVP, 3x Scoring leader – 22.1 PPG/9.4 RPG/2.3 APG
  54. Dan Issel “The Horse” – 1x Champion, 5x All-ABA – 22.6 PPG/9.1 RPG/2.4 APG
  55. George McGinnis – 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP – 20.2 PPG/11.0 RPG/3.7 APG
  56. Paul Arizin “Pitchin Paul” – 1x Champion, 2x Scoring leader – 22.8 PPG/8.6 RPG/2.3 APG
  57. Paul Pierce “The Truth” – 1x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 19.7 PPG/5.6 RPG/3.5 APG
  58. Clyde Drexler “The Glide” – 1x Champion, 3x All-NBA – 20.4 PPG/6.1 RPG/5.6 APG
  59. Giannis Antetokounmpo “The Greek Freak” – 2x MVP, 5x All-NBA – 20.0 PPG/8.9 RPG/4.3 APG
  60. Dennis Rodman “The Worm” – 8x All-Defensive, 7x Rebounding leader – 7.3 PPG/13.1 RPG/1.8 APG
  61. Spencer Haywood – 1x Champion, 1x MVP – 20.3 PPG/10.3 RPG/1.8 APG
  62. Sam Jones – 10x Champion, 3x All-NBA – 17.7 PPG/4.9 RPG/2.5 APG
  63. Dennis Johnson “DJ” – 3x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 14.9 PPG/3.9 RPG/5.0 APG
  64. Connie Hawkins “The Hawk” – 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP – 18.7 PPG/8.8 RPG/4.1 APG
  65. Billy Cunningham “Kangaroo Kid” – 1x Champion, 1x MVP – 21.2 PPG/10.4 RPG/4.3 APG
  66. Jerry Lucas “The Computer” – 1x Champion, 5x All-NBA – 17.0 PPG/15.6 RPG/3.3 APG
  67. Dave Debusschere – 2x Champion, 10x All-Defensive – 16.1 PPG/11.0 RPG/2.9 APG
  68. Dominique Wilkins “The Human Highlight Reel” – 5x All-NBA, 1x Scoring leader – 24.8 PPG/6.7 RPG/2.5 APG
  69. Tony Parker – 4x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 15.5 PPG/2.7 RPG/5.6 APG
  70. Wes Unseld “Big Wes” – 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP – 10.8 PPG/14.0 RPG/3.9 APG
  71. Pau Gasol – 2x Champion, 6x All-Star – 17.0 PPG/9.2 RPG/3.2 APG
  72. Bill Walton – 1x MVP, 1x Finals MVP – 13.3 PPG/10.5 RPG/3.4 APG
  73. Robert Parish “The Chief” – 4x Champion, 2x All-NBA – 14.5 PPG/9.1 RPG/1.4 APG
  74. Ray Allen – 2x Champion, 10x All-Star – 18.9 PPG/4.1 RPG/3.4 APG
  75. Hal Greer – 1x Champion, 7x All-NBA – 19.2 PPG/5.0 RPG/4.0 APG
  76. Tracy McGrady “T-mac” – 5x All-NBA, 2x Scoring leader – 19.6 PPG/5.6 RPG/4.4 APG
  77. Adrian Dantley – 2x All-NBA, 2x Scoring leader – 24.3 PPG/5.7 RPG/3.0 APG
  78. Carmelo Anthony “Melo” – 2x All-NBA, 1x Scoring leader – 23.6 PPG/6.5 RPG/2.9 APG
  79. Alex English – 3x All-NBA, 1x Scoring leader – 21.5 PPG/5.5 RPG/3.6 APG
  80. James Worthy “Big Game James” – 3x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 17.6 PPG/5.1 RPG/3.0 APG
  81. Roger Brown – 3x Champion, 1x Finals MVP -17.4 PPG/6.2 RPG/3.8 APG
  82. Tiny Archibald – 1x Champion, 5x All-NBA – 18.8 PPG/2.3 RPG/7.4 APG
  83. Chris Webber “C-Webb” – 4x All-NBA, 1x Rebounding leader – 20.7 PPG/9.8 RPG/4.2 APG
  84. Bobby Jones – 1x Champion, 11x All-Defensive – 12.1 PPG/6.1 RPG/2.7 APG
  85. Tom Heinsohn – 8x Champion, 4x All-NBA – 18.6 PPG/8.8 RPG/2.0 APG
  86. Bill Sharman – 4x Champion, 7x All-NBA – 17.8 PPG/3.9 RPG/3.0 APG
  87. Neil Johnston – 1x Champion, 3x Scoring leader – 19.4 PPG/11.3 RPG/2.5 APG
  88. Dikembe Mutombo – 6x All-Defensive, 2x Rebounding leader – 9.8 PPG/10.3 RPG/1 APG
  89. Sidney Moncrief – 5x All-NBA, 5x All-Defensive – 15.6 PPG/4.7 RPG/3.6 APG
  90. Joe Dumars – 2x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 16.1 PPG/2.2 RPG/4.5 APG
  91. Chauncey Billups “Mr Big Shot” – 1x Champion, 1x Finals MVP -15.2 PPG/2.9 RPG/5.4 APG
  92. Nate Thurmond “Nate the Great” – 7x All-Star, 5x All-Defensive – 15.0 PPG / 15.0 RPG / 2.7 APG
  93. Alonzo Mourning “Zo” – 1x Champion, 7x All-Star – 17.1 PPG/8.5 RPG/1.1 APG
  94. Walt Bellamy – 4x All-Star – 20.1 PPG/13.7 RPG/2.4 APG
  95. Bob Lanier – 8x All-Star – 20.1 PPG/10.1 RPG/3.1 APG
  96. Zelmo Beaty – 1x Champion, 1x Finals MVP – 16 PPG/10.5 RPG/1.5 APG
  97. Chris Bosh – 2x Champion, 11x All-Star – 19.2 PPG / 8.5 RPG / 2 APG
  98. Amar’e Stoudemire – 6x All-Star, 5x All-NBA – 18.9 PPG / 7.8 RPG / 1.2 APG
  99. Ben Wallace “Big Ben” – 1x Champion, 6x All-Defensive – 5.7 PPG/9.6 RPG/1.3 APG
  100. Reggie Miller – 5x All Star – 18.2 PPG/3.0 RPG/3.0 APG
  101. Bailey Howell – 6x All-Star, 2x Champion – 18.7 PPG / 9.9 RPG / 2 APG
  102. Bob Dandridge – 4x All-Star, 2x Champion – 18.5 PPG / 6.8 RPG / 3.4 APG
  103. Bernard King – 4x All-Star, 3x All-NBA – 22.5 PPG / 5.8 RPG / 3.3 APG
  104. Damian Lillard “Dame” – 5x All-Star, 4x All-NBA – 24.0 PPG / 4.2 RPG / 6.5 APG
  105. Mitch Richmond – 6x All-Star, 3x All-NBA – 21 PPG / 3.9 RPG / 3.5 APG
  106. David Thompson “Skywalker” – 5x All-Star, 3x All-NBA/ABA – 22.1 PPG / 4.1 RPG / 3.3 APG
  107. Pete Maravich “Pistol” – 5x All-Star, 4x All-NBA – 24.2 PPG / 4.2 RPG / 5.4 APG
  108. Blake Griffin – 6x All-Star, 3x All-NBA – 21.7 PPG / 8.8 PRG / 4.4 APG
  109. Grant Hill – 7x All-Star, 5x All-NBA – 16.7 PPG / 6.0 RPG / 4.1 APG
  110. Vince Carter “Vinsanity” – 8x All-Star, 1x All-NBA – 16.7 PPG / 4.3 RPG / 3.1 APG
  111. Jack Sikma – 7x All-Star, 1x Champion – 15.6 PPG / 9.8 RPG / 3.2 APG
  112. Dave Bing – 7x All-Star, 1x Scoring leader – 20.3 PPG / 3.8 RPG / 6.0 APG
  113. Kevin Johnson “KJ” – 3x All-Star, 4x All-NBA -17.9 PPG / 3.3 RPG / 9.1 APG
  114. Kyrie Irving – 6x All-Star, 1x Champion – 22.4 PPG / 3.7 RPG / 5.7 APG
  115. Jo Jo White – 7x All-Star, 2x Champion – 17.2 PPG / 4.0 RPG / 4.9 APG
  116. Lenny Wilkens – 9x All-Star, 1x Assists leader – 16.5 PPG / 4.7 RPG / 6.7 APG
  117. Lamarcus Aldridge – 7x All-Star, 2x All-NBA – 19.6 PPG / 8.4 RPG / 2.0 APG
  118. Kevin Love – 5x All-Star, 1x Rebounding leader – 18.3 PPG / 11.3 RPG / 2.3 APG
  119. Marques Johnson –  5x All-Star, 3x All-NBA – 20.1 PPG / 7.0 RPG / 3.6 APG
  120. Shawn Kemp – 6x All-Star, 3x All-NBA – 14.6 PPG / 8.4 RPG / 1.6 APG
  121. Chet Walker – 7x All-Star, 1x Champion – 18.2 PPG / 7.0 RPG / 2.1 APG
  122. Cliff Hagan – 6x All-Star, 2x All-NBA – 17.7 PPG / 6.6 RPG / 3.2 APG
  123. Walter Davis “Greyhound” – 6x All-Star, 2x All-NBA – 18.9 PPG / 3.8 RPG / 3.0 APG
  124. Maurice Lucas “The Enforcer” – 5x All-Star, 1x All-NBA – 14.6 PPG / 9.1 RPG / 2.4 APG
  125. Tim Hardaway – 5x All-Star, 4x All-NBA – 17.7 PPG / 3.3 RPG / 8.2 APG
  126. Chris Mullin – 5x All-Star, 3x All-NBA – 18.2 PPG / 4.1 RPG / 3.5 APG
  127. Klay Thompson – 5x All-Star, 3x Champion – 19.5 PPG / 3.5 RPG / 2.3 APG
  128. Gail Goodrich – 5x All-Star, 1x Champion – 18.6 PPG / 3.2 RPG / 4.7 APG
  129. Earl Monroe “The Pearl” – 4x All-Star, 1x Champion – 18.8 PPG / 3.0 RPG / 3.9 APG
  130. Derrick Rose “DRose” – 3x All-Star, 1x MVP – 18.8 PPG / 3.4 RPG / 5.6 APG
  131. Jimmy Jones – 6x All-Star, 3x All-ABA – 16.6 PPG / 4.3 RPG / 4.5 APG
  132. Louie Dampier – 7x All-Star, 4x All-ABA – 17.1 PPG / 2.8 RPG /  5.2 APG
  133. Bob Love – 3x All-Star, 2x All-NBA – 17.6 PPG / 5.9 RPG / 1.4 APG
  134. Willie Wise – 3x All-Star, 2x All-ABA – 17.6 PPG / 8.3 RPG / 2.9 APG
  135. Alvin Robertson – 4x All-Star, 6x All-Defensive – 14.0 PPG / 5.2 RPG / 5.0 APG
  136. Paul George – 6x All-Star, 1x All-NBA – 19.8 PPG / 6.4 RPG / 3.3 APG
  137. Manu Ginobili – 2x All-Star, 4x Champion – 13.3 PPG / 3.5 RPG / 3.8 APG
  138. Jamaal Wilkes “Silk” – 3x All-Star, 4x Champion – 17.7 PPG / 6.2 RPG / 2.5 APG
  139. Rajon Rondo – 1x Champion, 4x Assist leader – 10.2 PPG / 4.7 RPG / 8.3 APG
  140. Tom Chambers – 4x All-Star, 2x All-NBA – 18.1 PPG / 6.1 RPG / 2.1 APG
  141. Ed Macauley – 7x All-Star, 4x All-NBA – 17.5 PPG / 7.5 RPG / 3.2 APG
  142. Vern Mikkelsen – 4x All-NBA, 4x Champion – 14.4 PPG / 9.4 RPG / 2.2 APG
  143. Bob Davies – 5x All-NBA, 1x Champion – 14.3 PPG / 2.9 RPG / 4.9 APG
  144. Bill Laimbeer – 4x All-Star, 2x Champion – 12.9 PPG / 9.7 RPG / 2.0 APG
  145. Shawn Marion “The Matrix” – 4x All-Star, 1x Champion – 15.2 PPG / 8.7 RPG / 1.9 APG
  146. Mark Aguirre – 3x All-Star, 2x Champion – 20.0 PPG / 5.0 RPG / 3.1 APG
  147. George Yardley – 6x All-Star, 1x Scoring leader – 19.2 PPG / 8.9 RPG / 1.7 APG
  148. Paul Westphal – 5x All-Star, 4x All-NBA – 15.6 PPG / 1.9 RPG / 4.4 APG
  149. Charlie Scott – 4x All-Star, 1x Champion – 20.7 PPG / 4.0 RPG / 4.9 APG
  150. Yao Ming – 8x All-Star, 2x All-NBA – 19.0 PPG / 9.2 RPG / 1.6 APG
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Asia

What do you think of Chinese people?

Things I like about Chinese people:

-Hardworking

-Ambitious

-Confident

-Willing to take risks

-Brutal honesty

Things I don’t like about Chinese people:

-They lost their humility. Now they are too nationalistic, they always like to brag about China and how its better than other countries a lot, their cities, their food, their women etc and they get extremely defensive and offended when you say anything perceived as negative towards their country.

-Ironically even though they criticize other countries like USA/Japan/Korea etc all the time they cannot seem to take criticism of their own country well. They cannot seem to accept that their country has flaws. Yes we all know the CCP did some great things like lifting Chinese people out of poverty, but we also have to accept that they made some mistakes, especially in the past in the Mao-era with the Cultural Revolution and Great Leap Forward. Don’t jump down my throat for giving some honest feedback/criticism about your country. And they will inevitably talk about you are ‘brainwashed’ by Western media even though you are being the open minded one here.

-The whole society cares too much about wealth and is too materialistic. And before you say well other countries are materialistic too, no China is on a different level. They judge everyone by their wealth, everything is about money, money, money. How much do you make? What car do you have? You need a car and a house before marriage, and likely an expensive ring too. All this is crazy. You might find *some* Koreans and Japanese and Westerners like this, but definitely they will be in the minority and criticized if they think this way. For Chinese, this is considered a normal way of thinking.

-They think that being patriotic means supporting the CCP. Patriotism does NOT mean supporting the current government. Patriotism means love of your country, not love of the current government of your country. Many Chinese call me a ‘traitor’ because I don’t support the CCP and I say negative things about China. They don’t understand that you can still love China but be against the government. In America, over half the population opposes Trump, the current head of US government. Does that mean they do not love America? You must separate the concept of government from the country. Some of China’s greatest patriots were revolutionaries. Sun Yat-Sen was considered a great patriot, but opposed the Manchurian government in rule at the time. Most of Chinese dynasties were overthrown by someone who disliked the current government in rule. Heck, even Mao Zedong, the founder of the CCP, decided that the current government was not good and sought to overthrow it. Chinese must realize that going against your government does not mean you do not love your country.

-Gender inequality. I hate the BS ‘women hold up half the sky’ talk. If they hold up half the sky shouldn’t they pay for half of everything too? I don’t get why in the country with the lowest gender wage gap, the men still gotta pay for everything. Everything should either be equal and fair to both sexes, or if they insist men pay for everything, then they should do more than men at home or something like Koreans or Japanese women. Otherwise its not equal.

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Asia

What do you think about China?

I guess I come from the unique perspective of having been to all the East Asian countries (China, Taiwan, Japan, Korea) and my feelings about China has changed because of this. Roughly 30% of my friends are Chinese and 40% Korean.

Before I lived in Korea, I was in China for a few months, visiting such places as Beijing, Shanghai, Nanjing, Suzhou, Hangzhou.

My impressions are that North China has really bad air.. and although Beijing has lots of history, it just wasn’t as interesting to me as Central and South China were. In contrast, Shanghai was probably the most modern city in China, and Suzhou and Hangzhou had some of the most beautiful natural scenery I’ve experienced.

I had lots of (mainland) Chinese friends in university, and also met Chinese people in China of course.

I feel that my feelings for Chinese people changed a lot after I met Japanese, Koreans and Taiwanese after I graduated university and started working and traveling to other Asian countries.

After having visited Japan and Taiwan and living in Korea for 2 years, here’s my observations:

-China is a great place for traveling and still has some of the most naturally beautiful places in the world.

-China is a massively diverse country full of different races and cultures

-Chinese food is very different from American Chinese food

-Chinese people are very blunt; For example they do not hesitate to mince words on anything really. Korea/Taiwan/Japan tend to soften their words in order not to offend people too much, but Chinese just straight up say whatever is on their mind. This is often taken as ‘harshness’ or ‘rude’ by other countries but I think this is just their culture.

-China has way better gender equality than any of its surrounding countries. And the women act very different from Korean/Japanese/Taiwanese women. They are less traditionally feminine, more assertive, more ambitious, and in a lot of cases can actually be more dominant than the men. It’s almost a role reversal compared to other countries, lol. It’s better in China to be a girl. Everything is paid for by the guys. The guys are pretty subservient to their gfs. The groom’s family pays for the wedding, not the bride. There’s a dowry that the men have to pay. And because of the skewed gender ratio, girls have the pick of the litter. Pretty big contrast to Korea/Japan where its pretty much the opposite. Heres a nice graphic that is based on the stereotypes:

-Chinese people are very prideful about their country, and more uniquely is how prideful they are about the specific region where they are from. A lot of times I would hear not’ Chinese ___ is the best’ but rather ‘Sichuan ___ is the best’ or ‘Beijing ___ is the best’ or ‘Shanghai __ is the best’. They like to boast a lot, and its not hard to see that they are biased in favor of China and their region on a lot of issues. It’s not so different from USA where Americans boast about their country too, but it is different from Taiwan/Japan/Korea where I don’t really hear them boasting about their country that often. Chinese people are not really aware of the culture differences between their country and Japan/Korea/Taiwan either, but that’s a forgivable point I suppose considering most Chinese have not been outside their country before.

-Chinese people seem to put a lot of faith into their government. I’ve seen them use extreme cases to justify certain questionable government decisions. For example, banning foreign websites: Foreigners think its extremely limiting to freedom but Chinese people think its a good thing because it protects their domestic industry. censoring sex/violence in entertainment: Foreigners think its extreme, Chinese people think that having sex/violence in entertainment will lead to people becoming depraved criminals. censoring social media: Foreigners think it limits freedom, Chinese people think having a free social media is too crazy and chaotic and unstable. The government makes them wear ugly track outfits for school. Foreigners think Korean/Japanese school uniforms look better. Chinese people think its distracts them from studying and looks too sexy. Chinese people seem to place a premium on stability and harmony over freedom and flexibility, I think.

-Chinese people are very results driven, sometimes to the detriment of other qualities. You’ll notice that in whatever they do, Chinese care solely about the end result and how effective it is. If you look at Japan and Korea, they also care about other things like the visuals, the aesthetics, the process, the technique etc. This can pervade in so many different ways too, Chinese food focus solely on whether or not it is delicious. Korean/Japanese care about how the food is prepared as well. Chinese female sports players focus only on being good at what they do. Korean/Japanese female sports players focus on looking good, in addition to being good at what they do. Chinese students focus on getting good grades. Korean/Japanese students focus on looking good, in addition to getting good grades. When Chinese design phones, they make the phones have really good specs for a really good price. When Apple or Sony design phones, they care about the materials and crafting process as well as the specs. See the difference?

-Chinese are very wealth driven. Now you may say well every person cares about wealth and being rich right? Of course everyone wants to be rich, but not everyone makes it the sole overriding goal of their entire existence the way Chinese do. Everything Chinese do is based on how to make the most money, which items to spend money on that will show off the most wealth, etc. The whole society is driven by how much wealth you have. They judge people based purely on their wealth. That is not the case in Korea, Japan, Taiwan or Western countries actually. It’s easy to say that some parts of the US like Beverly Hills are pretty materialistic, but you can’t say that about the entire country. China on the other hand… I can confidently say that anywhere in the country you will be judged by your wealth and what you own.

-Japan is Tang Chinese culture, Korea is Ming Chinese culture, Taiwan is ROC culture, and China is its own culture. I find China the most westernized in culture out of all of them. For example, China is the least traditionally Confucist out of those countries, they have mostly done away with traditional ceremonies, religion, outfits (Chinese rarely wear Qipao compared to Japan’s Kimono or Korea’s Hanbok), and their fashion style is more similar to Westerners (i.e casual style) than to Koreans or Japanese. Perhaps this isn’t surprising since China underwent massive revolutions compared to those other countries.

-Most Chinese are clean, nice and polite, but perhaps not to the same extent as Taiwan, Korea or Japan. My ranking of cleanliness / politeness in general is Japanese (TOO polite to a fault) > Taiwan > Korea > China.

-Censorship. This is more of a problem for foreigners than native residents, but just be aware that unlike Japan/Korea/Taiwan, you need to use a VPN to use most sites in China, and they censor violent/sexual content. Too much so, IMO.

-Cost of living. Beijing, Shanghai and Tokyo are in the top tier of expensive cities to live in the world. In smaller Chinese cities, it is much cheaper. Seoul is a tier cheaper than those cities, and Taipei has the lowest cost of living amongst all the major capitals.

-China has the most job opportunities, and the best place to start a company, by far. Shenzhen and Beijing are economic powerhouses for IT. Korea’s job market is too competitive (there’s a reason why they have #1 suicide rate), Japan’s economy is stagnant and Taiwan’s economy is also stagnant. If you are looking for work as a foreigner, China is the best.

– Safety wise, all East Asian countries are safer than America. No comparison really. Very few mass shootings and gun murders if at all. In China you do have to be more careful of scams and thieves but its still relatively safe. In terms of safety I rank like this: Japan (zero gun deaths a year. seriously.) > Korea/Taiwan > China

-Technology. Again, ALL of these countries have great technology. Japan is famous for its tech companies, robots and micro electronics (Sony, Canon, Fujitsu, Toshiba, Panasonic, Nintendo, etc too many to list). Taiwan is the #1 maker of computer hardware with such names as Asus, Acer, HTC, Gigabyte, MSI etc. Korea is home to electronic giants Samsung and LG. China doesn’t have the brand cache of those other companies but they are improving! Huawei, Lenovo, Xiaomi, ZTE are some of the companies that are rapidly catching up to Japan and Korea!

-Religion wise, because of China’s communist past, very few Chinese are religious, most Chinese are atheist. Taiwan and Japan are mostly Buddhist. Korea is uniquely a Christian country, perhaps relating to how socially conservative they are.

In general I think it really depends what you want but China has its pros and cons. I did a comparison between China and other East Asian countries because I feel that this is a unique perspective I can contribute to, if others are interested. I would say work opportunity, diversity and natural beauty China is #1. Japan for the super polite / clean culture with a unique flavor. Korea is a mix of Japan and China but is also the most socially conservative and traditionally Confucist out of all them. Taiwan is much smaller than any of those countries but is a mix of Japanese and Chinese culture. I almost want to say they are Chinese people but with the manners of Japanese people.

Let me know in the comments if I am missing any comparison.

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General

The Financial crap keeps coming + new home purchase

Never thought I would be fighting so much for these financial things in Canada.
 
-CRA mailed tax refund to wrong address
-Called CRA to get it changed to correct address. They said I need to fill out some form to invalidate the other check they sent and prove I never deposited it in my account. I filled it out and mailed it to them.
-CRA decided that they were going to re-assess my TFSA contributions for the past 10 years, and for some reason, decided I was a non resident in 2010 and 2011 (even tho I was) and compounded penalties on my account for the last 10 years, then put a $17,000 bill on my tax account.
-I filed a dispute claiming that the CRA did not calculate my contributions correctly. They said it will take up to 18 months to look at the dispute and resolve it. CRA took my tax refunds and $2,000 that I paid them earlier and withholds it from me because they think I still ‘owe’ them money while it’s in dispute. So for the next 18 months, I cannot get anything back from the CRA.
 
If you think that wasn’t enough…
-I returned $2000 worth of Amazon packages that I purchased to review on Youtube, and sent them all back with tracking.
-My credit card gets cancelled by TD because they thought some fraudulent transactions were on it and issues me a new card.
-Because my condo unit was broken into, all mail is re-routed to some faraway postal location and I have to take Uber there and back to receive my new card.
-Seller confirms they received the returns, Amazon says they refunded me for all of them.
-The refunded transactions got stuck on the old card. I have to call TD and ask them to manually push the refunded transactions onto my new card.
-One of the transactions refunded by Amazon ($1200 worth) never shows up on either my old card or new card and it’s been well over 7 business days. Amazon says they definitely refunded me and TD says they definitely don’t see anything on my old card and on my new card.
-I have to dispute this transaction to force Amazon to push me a correct refund that will actually show up on my card.
 
So in addition to an ongoing lawsuit I’m still in (QuadrigaCX from last year, will not get resolved anytime soon), I have 2 disputes I’m currently waiting on resolution from that’s tying up at least $12,000 of my money, and that’s not even mentioning the fact that my previous Vancouver landlord scammed me earlier this year of my security deposit and I could have easily sued him for that but that would have put me into yet another lawsuit which I didn’t want to be in.
I never thought my financial situation in Canada would be so complicated all the time. Why did I leave the US again..?

Update on the Amazon refund situation: I got my refund and I asked TD to close the dispute, but instead of closing the dispute they (for some reason) added ANOTHER dispute onto the card for the entire amount of my purchase again, without crediting me. So now I got the seller hounding me again about why im disputing another charge when I actually didn’t, and I got a massive charge on my credit card that just randomly appeared out of nowhere. Why did TD do this??

Another story with Fedex:
-Fedex supposed to deliver to me last week. I called them and asked them where my package was. They said they were waiting for my payment, and because of COVID19 they can only take payment by phone not by person (which is extremely weird because I paid a Fedex guy just last month in person).
-So I paid them, and the following week they never delivered. I called and asked where’s my package. They said they were waiting for payment. I said I already paid them, and they said ok we’ll deliver it to you the next day.
-Next day comes and goes, they never delivered. I called them again, they said they take some time for someone to pick up my package or something and it will be delivered soon.
-I’m still waiting for my package
WHY are people so incompetent in this country???? Like I have to call them multiple times just to get them to do their freaking job
 
..in other news, I have decided to finally buy a new apartment, after selling my SF apartment in 2018 (effectively at a $200,000 loss since QuadrigaCX took all my proceeds of that sale), and it’s a pretty decent condo unit in Downtown Vancouver near BC place. This area is basically the ‘new’ Yaletown, and is probably going to be further developed in the future. The area has many of the same amenities and views as Yaletown, except the prices of the condos are roughly $50k cheaper for the same units on average, so I thought it was relatively ok. The place I ended up getting for $660,000 CAD ($500k USD) which was a decent discount from the list price of $689,000 CAD. It also comes tenanted which is nice, since I’m mostly looking for a place as an investment right now.
Plus, the interest rates right now in Canada are extremely low, and I managed to get approved for an interest rate of 1.6% variable, which is extremely low. 
I only have $120,000 CAD out of the $150,000 CAD I would need to cover the deposit on the condo (20% deposit) + closing costs, so I would need to borrow an additional $30k from my parents as well. I’m actually surprised that my parents can lend me that much given that I already lost them the money that they gave me for my SF apartment because of the QuadrigaCX mistake I made.

Remaining things to do:
-get a lawyer to write up the transfer of the deposit/rent/etc
-purchase insurance for the unit
-electricity isnt covered by the strata, so have to open a BC Hydro account for the condo and pay that as well
-borrow $30k from my parents to cover the deposit + closing costs
-Get $2000 bonus from CIBC for getting the mortgage with them. Lock in the 1.6% variable rate (I can switch to fixed at any time but the guy said that the rates should remain low for the next little while so I got nothing to worry about) for a $528,000 mortgage.
-Wait for CRA updates on dispute
-Wait for TD/Amazon updates on dispute 
-Wait for updates on QCX lawsuit from EY/MT
 
Items I purchased still waiting on:
-Astro Slide phone, coming out next year
-Nixie Tubes, shipped from Ukraine should be coming in next few days
-Cinera Edge, HMD backed in Kickstarter should be coming next year
-Refund for Atari VCS which I initially pre-ordered but decided against it
-Jelly Phone 2, should be getting end of year
-Jerry West jersey, shipped from China
-Klipsch R-41PM speakers + Pokemon game, shipped from US
-iPhone 12 Mini, pre-ordered with my Apple friend’s discount, shipped from US